On Fri, 10 Dec 2010 07:13:00 -0700, Paul Gilmartin wrote:

>On Dec 10, 2010, at 05:46, Peter Relson wrote:
>
>>> I wish you wouldn't write "within the bar".  It suggests that
>>> the bar has thickness, which it does not.  Addresses up to and
>>> including 7FFFFFFF are below the bar.  Addresses from 80000000
>>> and up are above the bar.  "Special dispensation" is not needed.
>>
>> Actually, as it was designed, there is "thickness". The bar is from
>> 80000000 through FFFFFFFF.
>> Everything from 1_00000000 on up is above the bar.
>>
>> The bar has been blurred because of the special compensation for Java to
>> use an area that includes the bar.
>>
>OK.  Thanks.  Henceforth I will try to accommodate Tom's
>preference by eschewing "within the bar" in favor of "an
>area that includes the bar".  (If I remember.)  Should I
>also use "compensation" rather than "dispensation"?
>
>Everybody happy?

I defer to Peter's knowledge of the original intent, since the bar is a z/OS
construct and not a hardware one.  For my purposes, data "above the bar" is
data that requires me to be in 64-bit mode.  It makes little difference
whether that means above 2 GB or above 4 GB, since I will never allocate
storage within that range.  However, if I need to examine Java stack in that
range, the distinction becomes blurred.

--
Tom Marchant
Abend-AID development
Compuware

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