---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "Rodriguez, Rafael CTR USSOCOM HQ" <[email protected]> Date: Dec 24, 2013 7:32 AM Subject: FW: Form ? To: <[email protected]> Cc:
-----Original Message----- From: Rodriguez, Rafael CTR USSOCOM HQ Sent: Tuesday, December 24, 2013 7:30 AM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: Form ? Ron like several have mentioned previously, since the form is already overlaid you can not convert to base. However, the reason all the properties are gray and you can not modifiy them is because although the form is overlaid the view may have not been overlaid and this also can be causing your difference in behavior between User and Mid-tier. NOTE: Remember in 7.6.4 there are several layers of overlays, First you MUST overlay the form, then the view, then each object that needs to be edited must also be overlaid. I believe in 8.1 dev studio handles overlays a lot better by creating the view and field overlays when you choose to overlay a form. So to some up, overlay the view and fields as needed and flush mid-tier cache and you should be good to go. HTH Rafael -----Original Message----- From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason Miller Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 5:44 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Form ? ** Also forms have some dynamic layout capabilities that do not work in the User Tool. Likely if the the View or a Panel's Layout Style was set to 'Fill' or 'Flow' you would see the difference in Dev Studio but then again maybe not ... Jason On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Young, Ronald P. <[email protected]> wrote: ** Hmmm.thanks for the reply. I will definitely look into all this when I get back from break. I'm just going to flush my brain from this stuff for a while. Have a Merry CHRISTmas! Thanks, Ron Young "Do not count the days; make your days count." (Muhammad Ali) From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 3:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Form ? ** No, if this is a 'base' form, and you want to add a field, you would add a Custom field in Best Practice Mode....you should almost never need to go into Base mode, certainly not to add a field. Regarding it not showing up in Mid-Tier properly. Remember that your web server gets its cache from the app server. I have seen people describe scenarios where they make the change on the primary in a server group, and then later find that one of the secondary servers didn't 're-cache', and mid-Tier was getting the cache from THAT server, so it wasn't all sync'd....so, if you have multiple servers, ensure that they all have the latest definitions, then flush your Mid-Tier cache on all nodes, then flush your local browser cache. There has to be a reason why it's not showing properly, but unless you have some weird configs (which do exist), it shouldn't be because there are fields in Overlay/Custom. On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 2:15 PM, Young, Ronald P. <[email protected]> wrote: ** LJ, I guess..I am just wondering why the heck the form in user and dev look the same but in mid-tier some of the fields aren't there. Just wondering if that could have been causing the issue. What you stated below is kind of what I figured.I guess I am looking into it too much. I just wish I could have access to make sure the cache was flushed so I could see if that changes anything. I have already cleared my browser cache, history, etc and that didn't change anything. I know we will be going to strictly mid-tier in the spring so I want to make sure everything is good. Check this.all though this is overlaid form.if I want to add a field I have to do it in base mode.is that right? I'll check on that too though. Thanks, Ron Young "Do not count the days; make your days count." (Muhammad Ali) From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of LJ LongWing Sent: Monday, December 23, 2013 3:09 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: Form ? ** Ron, If it is already overlaid, you can't convert to base because it's already base with an overlay, you cannot convert to custom because it is base with an overlay, and you cannot create an overlay because there is already an overlay. So....it sounds like the end result you are looking for is a base form with an overlay, which it sounds like you already have....so, what is it you are actually trying to do? On Mon, Dec 23, 2013 at 1:59 PM, Ron Young <[email protected]> wrote: Dev 8/User 7.6 I am in Best Practice Mode looking at a form. Marked Overlay. This was an OOB Form that numerous people have edited...which I hate. Anyway, now I can not "Convert to Custom" (which I wouldn't want to do anyway, right...with an OOB Form?). I can't "Convert to Base" nor can I "Create Overlay". These features are all greyed out. Why would this happen? Do I need to delete the overlay and leave it back at the Original form in Base Mode and then go back in, in Best Practice Mode and create the Overlay and make the editions. I looked at several of my overlaid forms and this is true with them all...is this normal with overlaid? I may just be scatter brained due to the holidays coming up and just not thinking Remedy if you get my point but I had to ask. 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