Warren,

I am in full agreement that the old pdf's were more usable than the current
wiki (exporting a document space to a pdf leaves you with a several
thousand page pdf).  However, from talking with the documentation folks at
WWRUG, they are very interested in making it be the best it can be.  Last
week, I tested their resolve by adding a comment to one of the pages that
was confusing and wasn't providing the information I needed.  Reasonably
quickly, maybe a day or so, someone got back to me and willingly worked
with me to make that section much more readable and accurate.  Overall, it
was a positive experience.

So make sure to add comments and suggestions to the pages you think need
improving, and it should get better.

Thad


On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 8:58 AM, Warren R. Baltimore II <
[email protected]> wrote:

> **
> Just to better illustrate my issue....
>
> 1 hour ago, I started hunting for documentation on spoon.  Specifically,
> how to use the darn thing!  I found the section I needed releatively
> quickly, but when I went to convert it to PDF, it took me 30 minutes to
> find the sections I needed, and now it's taking 20 minutes to convert the
> sections to .pdf!  I just want a simple doc!
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Shellman, David <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> ** **
>> As I said. I prefer the OLD PDF documentation.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>  ------------------------------
>> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *patrick zandi
>> *Sent:* Friday, November 02, 2012 11:32 AM
>>
>> *To:* [email protected]
>> *Subject:* Re: ARS Wiki
>>
>>  ** Dave:
>> the new problem is the references in the PDF's point to links on the
>> internet..  =8^ P
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 11:06 AM, Shellman, David <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> ** **
>>> I prefer the old PDF documentation.  Note that on our servers, browser
>>> access to the Internet is blocked.  So to access any external documentation
>>> is a multistep process.
>>>
>>> I can have the PDF's saved locally on our server that I can open.  Or I
>>> can store them on my iPad to view.
>>>
>>> In each case I don't have to go searching for anything.  It's in one
>>> place and clearly identified by name.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>  ------------------------------
>>>  *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Warren R. Baltimore II
>>> *Sent:* Friday, November 02, 2012 10:52 AM
>>> *To:* [email protected]
>>> *Subject:* Re: ARS Wiki
>>>
>>>  **
>>> I get the sharing aspect of it, but the problem is that it is neither
>>> intuitive or fully baked (a BMC specialty if you ask me).  It shouldn't
>>> take me an hour to find documentation and finally have to submit a helpdesk
>>> ticket to do so.  And then, they send me the wrong thing because obviously,
>>> they are working with the same system (to their credit!) and can't find the
>>> right stuff either!
>>>
>>> I mentioned to a friend that when I go looking for docs anymore, I feel
>>> a little like Indiana Jones trying to find some weird artifact deep in the
>>> bowels of some dangerous tomb....
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Drew Shuller <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> ** Hi Warren. The Wiki takes some getting used to. I agree, it's
>>>> painful, but it's very useful.
>>>>
>>>> I'll be reading something one day and then won't be able to find it a
>>>> couple of days later. And, they seem to be adding things as we go along. I
>>>> swear, there has been very useful information about 8.0 added in the last
>>>> two weeks, after I started the ITSM install process. Some of the 8.0
>>>> information still refers to 7.6.4, and sometimes the information isn't
>>>> where you would think it should be. I wish the website ran faster. I do
>>>> miss the Master Index.
>>>>
>>>> But overall it's a good resource. You can add pages or entire sections
>>>> to your favorites section on the Dashboard, which is a lifesaver for me.
>>>> You can leave a comment on any particular page, which is a huge plus. You
>>>> can see the change history of a page. You can generate a pdf or Office
>>>> document of any page, or forward a page via email. So it's a living
>>>> breathing set of documents that BMC seems to be updating regularly.
>>>>
>>>> Drew
>>>> JTF-Bravo, Honduras _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the
>>>> Answers Are"_
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Warren R. Baltimore II
>>> Remedy Developer
>>> 410-533-5367
>>> _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_
>>>  _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Patrick Zandi
>> _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_
>>  _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Warren R. Baltimore II
> Remedy Developer
> 410-533-5367
> _attend WWRUG12 www.wwrug.com ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are"_
>

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