Until it hurts the pocketbook - NOTHING WILL BE DONE!!!.

So - question is -- how do you make it hurt the pocketbook?



-John




On Tue, Jun 5, 2012 at 8:49 AM, Pierson, Shawn <[email protected]>wrote:

> **
>
> Perhaps a good alternative would be if BMC somehow made a volunteer-based
> support forum that could take the place of their offshore support.  They
> could somehow anonymize the contact data to where you don’t actually know
> who the person you are dealing with is, and they could use this new
> gamification trend to pay the volunteers based on what happens.****
>
> ** **
>
> For example, pay a small fee to people who resolve a certain type of issue
> quickly by leveraging the knowledge base.  You get paid more if you solve
> an issue that isn’t in the knowledge base and you submit a knowledge base
> entry that is approved by a BMC technical rep of some sort.  Identifying
> new defects in the product (also requiring a technical approval) results in
> a certain amount of pay, while solving that defect with a working hotfix
> results in a larger amount.  There would also be customer support surveys
> like BMC used to do, which would also be used as a factor in how much the
> individual makes (which should also ensure the person working on the issue
> is timely and courteous.)****
>
> ** **
>
> This would allow BMC to mostly get rid of Tier 1 for web-based
> non-critical tickets, and it would get them access to better people who may
> otherwise have day jobs that just want to solve issues for a bit of extra
> cash after hours.  ** **
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> *Shawn Pierson *
>
> Remedy Developer | Energy Transfer****
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto:
> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Warren R. Baltimore II
> *Sent:* Tuesday, June 05, 2012 7:43 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Support - An open letter to BMC****
>
> ** **
>
> ** ****
>
> Once again, I have submitted a ticket that has an abundance of information
> regarding my problem.****
>
>  ****
>
> It lists the ARS version and patch****
>
> It lists the Server type and OS****
>
> It lists the Db and version****
>
> It gives a succinct description of the issue****
>
>  ****
>
> I then received a response almost 45 minutes later (which I was quite
> pleased with!  Quick Turn around!)****
>
>  ****
>
> After reading the response, I was tempted to buy a ticket to wherever the
> hell support was and deliver my feelings in person!****
>
>  ****
>
> Response follows:****
>
>  ****
>
> *Hi Warren,**
>
> Thank you for contacting BMC Remedy Support.
>
> Our goal at BMC is to provide you with an excellent customer service
> experience. If for any reason you feel this issue is not progressing
> properly, please discuss it with me or feel free to contact our Support
> Manager ************* at ************ <************@bmc.com>@bmc.com
>
> I am ********** and I shall be assisting you with this issue.
>
> This mail is regarding Issue "ISS03967224"with issue summary as: "I am
> unable to search for a join of 3 forms utilizing the Request ID field."
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Thanks for the initial information.
>
> I tried to call you unfortunately reached VM.
>
> In order to fully understand the affected environment and narrow down the
> possibilities, please address the following for me:
>
> 1) What is the AR Server version & Patch level?
> 2) What is the OS and version that the Remedy environment is installed on?
> 3) What database and version does the AR Server use? Is it local or remote
> to the AR Server installation?
> 4) Have you upgraded your environment? If yes then from which version
> please specify?
> 5) Have you done any customization? Please explain?
> 6) When you are getting the error?
> 7) What is the exact error message you are getting
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Please send me the information at your earliest, it will help me to
> investigate issue further.
>
> Kindly let me know if you have any concerns on this issue.
>
> *
> My response was blunt:****
>
>  ****
>
> *With the exception of question 5, I answered EVERY question in the
> ticket.  **
>
> Question 5:  we have not upgraded.
>
> As to customization, lightly.  You will notice that this is a join I built!
> *****
>
> ___________________________________________****
>
>  ****
>
> This has been indicative of support for about the last 6 or so years
> (whenever it was off shored).  Support techs seem to read from a script.
> Based on what I was seeing, I suspect that this particular tech was reading
> only the description in a notification and not from the actual support
> request.****
>
>  ****
>
> I don't think I blame the techs.  I suspect that they are all hard working
> people who get lousy pay and little training.****
>
>  ****
>
> I remember sitting in a hall some years back (San Jose perhaps) and being
> told by BMC how it was going to be so wonderful when they offshore
> support.  All of the domestic support people would be moved to different
> parts of the structure to utilize that wonderful institutional knowledge
> they had, and the new support staff would be given all the training and
> support they needed to maintain a high level of support....****
>
>  ****
>
> It hasn't worked out that way.  2 years after BMC pulled the trigger,
> support was so bad that I ended up in an hour long phone conversation with
> the individual who was tasked with managing that operation (I wish I could
> remember his name).  I expressed my concerns and found that for the most
> part, he agreed with my assessment!  The term he used at the time to
> describe where BMC had found themselves was that the trigger had been
> pulled, the deed was done and there was no going back!  So here we are,  *
> ***
>
>  ****
>
> I am not saying that every time I have dealt with support that it is
> always a disaster, it isn't.  As with any organization, there are bright
> spots.  Every tech I deal with seems to have a genuine desire to help.  But
> the process does not work, and the knowledge isn't always what it should
> be.  And (perhaps the biggest sin in my mind), the tool that they should be
> using isn't utilized!  Why do we take the time to fill out all of the data
> in the support request that they request if they are not even going to
> bother reading it????****
>
>  ****
>
> What's the solution?  I'm not sure.  But the current system isn't working.
> ****
>
>  ****
>
> Warren R. Baltimore II****
>
> Remedy Developer since ARS 3.2****
>
> 410-533-5367****
>
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