Yes you can....but it's not supported by anyone...and you need to know the
Epoch/Julian (depending on the type of field) that Remedy actually stores in
the DB (which you can lookup from the other field, if they are the same data
type) 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MCrawford
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2008 9:04 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Null Reported Date ARS7

Out of curiosity, would it be possible to just open the actual ARSystem DB
and manually enter the dates?

I will give the import another shot with the updated advice.  Thank you for
the assistance!

M.B.

On Aug 16, 5:53 pm, Carey Matthew Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> M.B.
>
> Sorry for the incomplete answer. I hit the send button to soon. :(
>
> Yes you need to cross map the value for the field that you want to set 
> to the field (in the file) that you want it to be set to.
> So after you "Add All"
> You need to set 'reported date' = $3$ (or whaterver field ID/field 
> name you are going to use to backfill the data with) before you do the 
> import.
>
> BTW: If you look at the 4th line of an ARX file you will see a line like
this...
> "
> FLD-ID 4 1 3
> "
>
> This is a space separated list of field ID's that were exported in the 
> arx file. In the example above fields: 4 , 1,  and 3 were exported. I 
> would bet that your ARX file does not have a "1" as a field ID in the 
> file.
>
> Also .. I just looked on our ITSM v7 HPD:Helpdesk form and the field 1 
> name is 'Entry ID' and it has a prefix of "INC". ( The 'Incident ID'
> field is actually field ID 1000000161 and has a Field DB name of 
> "Incident Number". This field can not be used to update a record via 
> the import tool. Unless they finally fixed the idea of doing the 
> matching on other columns than field 1 when I was not looking. :) )
>
> Submit Date = field ID 3
>
> Which is why you were getting the errors you were getting. Without a 
> Field 1 value the Import tool assumes that your trying to create a new 
> record (like a Submit operation) instead of trying to update an 
> existing record ( like a Modify) operation. ( Keep in mind the filters 
> that are triggered are neither Submit, nor Modify. Only Merge filters 
> are triggered directly by the Import tool. Workflow can the trigger 
> Submit/Modify filters as a result of Push actions, and even Get Entry 
> filters too (SetField) but those are other topics for other days. So I 
> hope that does not confuse the issue any.)
>
> But there is a twist I was not expecting....
> Reported Date = field ID 1000000719, but it is a display only field ( 
> What the [EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED]@[EMAIL PROTECTED] )
>    So that means that MAYBE if you import the data into that field 
> there will be workflow on Merge that puts it where it needs to go to 
> actually keep the value. The general approrach of using the import 
> tool to backfill the data should work if you can figure out where it 
> needs to be kept. Maybe the display only field already has workflow no 
> merge that will work. I think it is worth a shot at least. I doubt it 
> can hurt anything. (If you do your field map correctly.)
>
> If the Merge to the display only field fails to get you what your 
> after then you may need to turn on Filter tracing, do a Submit or a 
> Modify of a record where you manually set 'Reported Date' to a value 
> to be able to find where the value is kept in the application. (Sorry 
> for the confusion, but apparently the field you are likely seeing on 
> the form is not actually where that data is stored. GRRR.)
>
> HTH.
>
> --
> Carey Matthew Black
> Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
> ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
>
> Love, then teach
> Solution = People + Process + Tools
> Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick two.
>
> P.S. Your first initial would not happen to be a "C" would it? :)
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 5:12 PM, MCrawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Can you clarify step one?  I am exporting the following from 
> > HPD:Helpdesk to an ARX file.
>
> > 1 Incident ID
> > 2 Reported Date
> > 3 Submit Date
>
> > I open the import tool, and load the form and data.  I click 'Add 
> > all'.  From here I would think I would have to change the mappings 
> > so that Reported Date = Submit Date, but following your steps I just 
> > change the preference settings to update records and click the start 
> > import button.  It gives me the following errors:
>
> > AR System Import Tool  Fri Aug 15 17:05:59 2008
>
> > **** Did not find any matching fields to add as new mappings (ARWARN
> > 4013)
>
> > **** Import of d:\documents and settings\matthew.crawford\desktop 
> > \report.arx started. (ARNOTE 4001)
>
> > **** Record 1 : The value(s) for this entry violate a unique index 
> > that has been defined for this form -- HPD:Help Desk
> > entry:INC000000042965 fields: 1000000161 1000000079 1000000018
> > 1000000019 1000000080 4 1000000427 1000000063 1000000064 1000000065
> > 200000003 200000004 200000005 240001002 1000000869 1000000875 179 7 
> > 301735100 301734000  (ARERR 382)
>
> > **** DATA "INC000000045876" "" 1218122557
>
> > On Aug 15, 2:13 pm, Carey Matthew Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> M.B.
>
> >> I am sure there is a way to fix these records. And I would guess 
> >> that one way would be to do something like this:
>
> >> 1) Export three columns of data from the effected records to an ARX or
CSV file.
> >>     Field 1 (maybe called 'Request ID', 'Entry ID', 'Call ID' or 
> >> some other name)
> >>     'reported date'
> >>     Field 3 (maybe called 'Create Date', 'Create-date', or some 
> >> other name)
>
> >> * Note if you do not want to set 'reported date' = 'Create Date' 
> >> then pick any other field you want from the existing record and 
> >> export that data instead of Field 3.
>
> >> 2) Use the Import tool to *update* the existing records.
> >>     Select the form, select the file that you exported above, and "Map
all"
> >>     * Note: Configuring the Import tool to update existing records 
> >> is found in File(menu) --> Preferences (menu item) --> Duplicate 
> >> Request ID (tab) menu of the import tool.
>
> >> Barring any strange Merge filters on the form then that simple 
> >> process should work.
>
> >> --
> >> Carey Matthew Black
> >> Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
> >> ARS = Action Request System(Remedy)
>
> >> Love, then teach
> >> Solution = People + Process + Tools Fast, Accurate, Cheap.... Pick 
> >> two.
>
> >> On Fri, Aug 15, 2008 at 1:16 PM, MCrawford <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> >> > Greetings,
>
> >> > About 100 tickets have been created with blank/null reported dates.
> >> > This is causing issues with reporting.  Most of the tickets were 
> >> > associated with a single user.  I have removed and re-created his 
> >> > account, and the error appears to be resolved.  However, I need 
> >> > to know if there is a way to fix the erroneous tickets?
>
> >> > Thanks,
>
> >> > M.B.
>
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