Maybe the deciding factor is what are they going to see or have the ability
to monkey with if they do open the form. Maybe an after the fact coaching is
too late.

 

Something like HIPAA comes to mind. Maybe there is some form that users need
to be able to use in workflow for lookups but if they can open the form to
see groups of records they would normally have to access via a console that
controls the number of records accessed (and possibly all records accessed
from the console are logged for auditing). Once an unauthorized person has
been able to see multiple records of PHI (Protected Health Information) the
violation has occurred. Sure you can take action against the user but it is
better to avoid the situation completely.

 

Another example is the People form. Support staff and potentially all
employees if using Authenticate Unregistered Users need access to the data
on an single record basis. In the past I had a requirement that would not
allow anybody except an administrator to query the People form directly or
pull a report. The thought was that a list of employees could be created and
sent (sold) to head hunters.

 

Of course there are other ways of preventing or logging these situations.
You could create a filter that fires on GET ENTRY to log what records are
being accessed by whom. You could also create an Active Link that triggers
an error or close window on Search.

 

Unfortunately many times in the IT/security world building a better mouse
trap is a fact of life. It is a constant cat and mouse game. Can Microsoft
discipline all of the MS hackers (also potentially their customer) out
there. No, they have to hopefully get it right the first time (let's not
start any debates here) and continue to make changes as new holes are found.
National security. sure we can execute anybody who does unthinkable things
on our soil but isn't it better to try and prevent it.

 

.. Ok I am done, I go back to work now.

 

Jason

 

From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 3:15 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: mid tier lock down URL

 

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No, I guess you can't, but perhaps his/her supervisor can.  I am serious in
saying that while you may be tasked with providing a software wall to stop
this action, the most efficient way to really stop it is by dealing with the
people.  If the customer doesn't care, then why would they ask you to
prevent it?  If they do care, perhaps they will see that there's a better
way than lots of coding.  Better mousetraps often just make smarter mouses,
and then you still have the root of the problem in place after all that
work. 

 

Rick
 

On 11/28/07, Mahan, Janet L [EQ] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 

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I can't crack my customer's across the knuckles!  

 

Seriously, does no one else think that is a security issue for any user to
be able to overwrite the url and get to hidden forms? 

 

Janet Mahan 
Network Systems Administrator II 
EMBARQ 
  
Voice: 941-766-6199  |  Wireless: 321-356-0128  |  Fax: 941-766-6199 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
Voice | Data | Internet | Wireless | Entertainment 

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From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)
[mailto:[email protected] ] On Behalf Of Rick Cook
Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2007 5:45 PM
To: [email protected] 
Subject: Re: mid tier lock down URL

** 

Why, what could be simpler than a ruler across the knuckles, administered as
necessary?  ;-)  Seriously, my preference would be to simply report this
person for violation of whatever IT policy prohibits such actions.  That's
assuming that (s)he is causing some problem by doing so. 

 

Rick
 

On 11/28/07, Mahan, Janet L [EQ] <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: 

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Is there a simple way for someone that doesn't know a lot about
creating/modifying web pages to keep users from changing the URL in the
mid-tier and going directly to a form that they have hidden access to?????? 

Janet Mahan 
Network Systems Administrator II 
EMBARQ 
  
Voice: 941-766-6199  |  Wireless: 321-356-0128  |  Fax: 941-766-6199 
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
Voice | Data | Internet | Wireless | Entertainment 

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