I understand and utilize the differences between a form def and an
application def.  I don't view deployable applications as a single unit as
you apparently do.  I may be a bit 'old fashioned' in that respect...but I
still migrate only changes and not the entire application...likely why I
come across this type of thing...:) 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carey Matthew Black
Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 10:10 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: Form Permissions Stripped

L.J.,

I think your dealing with the "deployable application" paradigm a bit wrong.
I think of the deployable application is one logical unit. So, I am not sure
it makes any sense to move only a form (that is part of a deployable
application) from server to server. No more since than moving an Active
link, Filter or Menu either. I think you should move the application, not
parts of it.


I also suspect that your not exporting the "application" but your exporting
the form object(s). The difference is in the admin tool (Tools--> "Export
Definitions..."--> To Definition File") vs ( Tools --> "Export Application")
. If you look at the two files you will see differences in the format/data.

HTH.
--
Carey Matthew Black
Remedy Skilled Professional (RSP)
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On 6/21/07, L. J. Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> **
>
> I'm not the migrator guy....but he tells me that in order to get 
> everything over...you must first migrate the form, then the app, then 
> the form to get everything over without any differences....that is 
> unless you have that option enabled then all you must do is migrate 
> the app and it takes care of all of it
>
>  ________________________________
>  From: Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of patrick zandi
> Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2007 7:50 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: Form Permissions Stripped
>
>
> ** What happen's if you do a difference report and then migrate 
> differences only ?
>
>
> On 6/21/07, L. J. Head <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ok...here is a situation at my current position that I can't understand.
> >
> > ARS 6.3 P21
> > Server 2003
> > SQL 2000
> >
> > You have an existing deployable application on server B.  On server 
> > A you add a new form to that same deployable application.  If you 
> > then import
> the
> > new from into Server B the admin tool strips the role permissions 
> > because
> it
> > is not part of the deployable app...so you now add that new form to 
> > the application...and re-import and all works well...so we have a 
> > chicken and egg situation...we have a deployable application which 
> > doesn't contain the form...and a form that doesn't exist...so we 
> > can't add it.  We contact Remedy support about this issue and get the
fabled 'functions as designed'
> > reply...another co-worker found an option in Migrator that tells it 
> > to
> bring
> > any 'missing' forms over with an application during 
> > migration...which
> seems
> > to work...but I can't believe they would put you in this catch 22 
> > without
> a
> > solution...any suggestions on how this could be done without errors
> without
> > having to import things multiple times?
> >
> >
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