Mike,

I had spoken recently to Remedy Support about it. They are aware of the problem 
and is identified by them as a known problem. They do not have a fix for it as 
of now.. Since its a installshield and not a script, we cannot really do 
anything about it till they recompile the installer when they fix the problem. 
From what I heard from support, they do not know the cause of the problem yet. 
There seems to be no identified pattern at which point users experience this 
installation failing so its a little hard I guess for them to narrow down the 
problem to the point of failure..

So having a backup of the database is a good idea even if its a maiden fresh 
install with no data in the system. At least you save the time of reinstalling 
everything and can roll back to the previous state...
 
Joe D'Souza
Remedy Developer / Consultant,
BearingPoint,
Virginia.



----- Original Message ----
From: Mike Gould <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 12:00:36 PM
Subject: Re: Warning ... SLM 7.0.2 install w/o collector - SOLUTION

** 
I've also noticed the SLM 7.0.00, 7.0.01 and 7.0.02 InstallShield's bomb out on 
a regular basis during my several practice and real SLM install attempts.  Was 
thinking it was just me or something screwy on our development and production 
servers (Solaris 9 with Oracle 10gR2) as sometimes it would complete without 
any problems.  Restoring from backup to "try" again is a big issue and 
something I shouldn't ever have to do!  
 
The other issue with the SLM install has been with the ARIntegrations 
installer.  Except for the 7.0.00 release, the process that builds the 
SLM:Measurements to HPD:HelpDesk join doesn't run and you have to manually 
re-execute this process. 
 
I'm amazed at how buggy the whole SLM install process has been as I don't see 
these issues with the other ITSM apps.
 
I wonder if any of this has been reported to BMC?  I also don't understand why 
they don't just make a standard install script for SLM and be consistent with 
the other apps.  The same goes for the CMDB CIViewer InstallSheild! 
 
Regards,
Michael Gould
US House of Representatives

 
On 1/18/07, Joe DeSouza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
** 
Another thing about SLM is that its a installshield and not really an install 
script (on unix) and it tends to bomb out during an install.. So its a mighty 
good idea to take a backup of the database before attempting to install it just 
for a good measure... 
 
All other V7 apps use install scripts (on UNIX) so they are less buggier..
 
Joe D'Souza
Remedy Developer / Consultant,
BearingPoint,
Virginia.



----- Original Message ----
From: Tony Worthington < [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [email protected]

Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 8:14:36 AM
Subject: Warning ... SLM 7.0.2 install w/o collector - SOLUTION


Here's the solution (from support.)  Guess I should have paid better 
attention to the release notes.  :-/  Granted, I have not yet tried 
this... we'll see.

"There is an 'overwrite install option' in the release notes for SLM 
7.0.02. This overwrite allows you to re-install SLM on top of an existing 
install. Please check out page 11 and 12 of the SLM 7.0.02 release notes 
(not the install guide) for details about the overwrite install.    There 
are some steps and post-install checks mentioned in that section. You  can 
use this to reinstall on your existing installation of SLM, and this time 
around you can also select the collector option.

Also, when you do an overwrite, you will not lose any of your existing SLM 
data or Service Targets that you've already created.  Data does not get 
deleted.   You can retrieve the release notes for SLM 7.0.2 from the 
supportweb > Downloads area."

-tony


-- 
Tony Worthington
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
262-703-5911
----- Forwarded by Tony Worthington/Corp/Kohls on 01/18/2007 07:12 AM 
-----

Tony Worthington/Corp/Kohls wrote on 01/08/2007 07:32:04 AM:

> Chris -
> 
> I'm not sure when the 'bundled' thing happened... but I think it was
> 7.0.2.  I wonder if you can install the 7.0.1 collector standalone 
> and then upgrade it to 7.0.2?  Probably not. 
> 
> Since posting, I have rejected the support solution (restore, 
> reinstall) and the ticket has been escalated.  We'll see where it goes.
> 
> And I agree with you on the whole jboss thing.  Hopefully that will 
> be addressed soon, as I could use not having to learn another 
> http/whatever server.  Especially after having dumped SE and IIS to 
> simplify things.
> 
> -tony
> 
> 
> -- 
> Tony Worthington
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 262-703-5911
> 
> strauss < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> Sent by: "Action Request System discussion list(ARSList)" 
> <[email protected]>
> 
> 01/05/2007 05:34 PM
> 
> Please respond to
> [email protected]
> 
> To
> 
> [email protected]
> 
> cc
> 
> Subject
> 
> Re: Warning ... SLM 7.0.2 install w/o collector
> 
> That doesn't make much sense considering how much hell we (I for sure) 
> raised at UserWorld about them requiring unknown (here) crap,
> specifically jboss, installed on your AR server (of all places) ahead of
> the SLM collector. BMC Remedy _promised_ at UserWorld an updated 
> collector that will (a) run on a separate server machine from the AR
> Server and (b) run on ServletExec and eventually Tomcat instead of or in
> addition to Jboss. I installed SLM 7.01 Patch 003 without the collector 
> with the expectation that I can install a newer version of the collector
> on a separate server with a _known_ JAP server engine when they have it
> ready. Now you say the two pieces are only installable together, once!? 
> That's just wrong.
> 
> AND they want us to pay three times as much money for this crap as we
> did for SLA!??? That's even MORE WRONG.
> 
> Christopher Strauss, Ph.D.
> Remedy Database Administrator 
> University of North Texas Computing Center
> http://remedy.unt.edu/helpdesk/

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