Remedy should have a timezone for GMT or "Greenwich Mean Time" that is the reference we need without all the fiddling around we have to do now. Sheesh. Please fix this BMC, you are 20 years behind everybody.
On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 6:10 PM, Mueller, Doug <[email protected]> wrote: > ** > > Folks, > > > > Some more testing showed inconsistency with the Casablanca site. It > should work as Morocco does not use DST but I guess other countries in that > area do. > > > > You found one of the others that works consistently. > > > > Another option is to use Iceland. Now, it turns out that this is not on > the menu, but it is a supported option. So, you have to modify the menu > > > > ARUserPref:TimeZone > > > > And add the choice > > > > Iceland > > > > And if you select that, it works as well. That country doesn’t use DST > either and never has and there is nothing else out there in the middle of > the Atlantic so no confusion….. > > > > > > Anyway, one already on the menu. One that you can add instead. Two > different options for getting what you need. > > > > The challenge we have is that we are using a standard library for doing > all the timezone work. We have to go with the list of things that the > library supports. And GMT is not one of the options. > > > > The full list of items (and if they are not on the menu above, they could > be added and the system will support them – like Iceland (and this was > tested across several systems and it does seem to be working consistently > on all). > > > > Another that may hold promise is Etc/GMT. Don’t know if that is on the > menu or not – but again, it could be added….. > > > > > > But, I have to say, setting a timezone to Timbuktu is pretty hard to > beat!!!! > > > > > > These are valid timezone names we loading from ICU libraries: > > ACT > > AET > > AGT > > ART > > AST > > Africa/Abidjan > > Africa/Accra > > Africa/Addis_Ababa > > Africa/Algiers > > Africa/Asmara > > Africa/Asmera > > Africa/Bamako > > Africa/Bangui > > Africa/Banjul > > Africa/Bissau > > Africa/Blantyre > > Africa/Brazzaville > > Africa/Bujumbura > > Africa/Cairo > > Africa/Casablanca > > Africa/Ceuta > > Africa/Conakry > > Africa/Dakar > > Africa/Dar_es_Salaam > > Africa/Djibouti > > Africa/Douala > > Africa/El_Aaiun > > Africa/Freetown > > Africa/Gaborone > > Africa/Harare > > Africa/Johannesburg > > Africa/Kampala > > Africa/Khartoum > > Africa/Kigali > > Africa/Kinshasa > > Africa/Lagos > > Africa/Libreville > > Africa/Lome > > Africa/Luanda > > Africa/Lubumbashi > > Africa/Lusaka > > Africa/Malabo > > Africa/Maputo > > Africa/Maseru > > Africa/Mbabane > > Africa/Mogadishu > > Africa/Monrovia > > Africa/Nairobi > > Africa/Ndjamena > > Africa/Niamey > > Africa/Nouakchott > > Africa/Ouagadougou > > Africa/Porto-Novo > > Africa/Sao_Tome > > Africa/Timbuktu > > Africa/Tripoli > > Africa/Tunis > > Africa/Windhoek > > America/Adak > > America/Anchorage > > America/Anguilla > > America/Antigua > > America/Araguaina > > America/Argentina/Buenos_Aires > > America/Argentina/Catamarca > > America/Argentina/ComodRivadavia > > America/Argentina/Cordoba > > America/Argentina/Jujuy > > America/Argentina/La_Rioja > > America/Argentina/Mendoza > > America/Argentina/Rio_Gallegos > > America/Argentina/Salta > > America/Argentina/San_Juan > > America/Argentina/San_Luis > > America/Argentina/Tucuman > > America/Argentina/Ushuaia > > America/Aruba > > America/Asuncion > > America/Atikokan > > America/Atka > > America/Bahia > > America/Barbados > > America/Belem > > America/Belize > > America/Blanc-Sablon > > America/Boa_Vista > > America/Bogota > > America/Boise > > America/Buenos_Aires > > America/Cambridge_Bay > > America/Campo_Grande > > America/Cancun > > America/Caracas > > America/Catamarca > > America/Cayenne > > America/Cayman > > America/Chicago > > America/Chihuahua > > America/Coral_Harbour > > America/Cordoba > > America/Costa_Rica > > America/Cuiaba > > America/Curacao > > America/Danmarkshavn > > America/Dawson > > America/Dawson_Creek > > America/Denver > > America/Detroit > > America/Dominica > > America/Edmonton > > America/Eirunepe > > America/El_Salvador > > America/Ensenada > > America/Fort_Wayne > > America/Fortaleza > > America/Glace_Bay > > America/Godthab > > America/Goose_Bay > > America/Grand_Turk > > America/Grenada > > America/Guadeloupe > > America/Guatemala > > America/Guayaquil > > America/Guyana > > America/Halifax > > America/Havana > > America/Hermosillo > > America/Indiana/Indianapolis > > America/Indiana/Knox > > America/Indiana/Marengo > > America/Indiana/Petersburg > > America/Indiana/Tell_City > > America/Indiana/Vevay > > America/Indiana/Vincennes > > America/Indiana/Winamac > > America/Indianapolis > > America/Inuvik > > America/Iqaluit > > America/Jamaica > > America/Jujuy > > America/Juneau > > America/Kentucky/Louisville > > America/Kentucky/Monticello > > America/Knox_IN > > America/La_Paz > > America/Lima > > America/Los_Angeles > > America/Louisville > > America/Maceio > > America/Managua > > America/Manaus > > America/Marigot > > America/Martinique > > America/Mazatlan > > America/Mendoza > > America/Menominee > > America/Merida > > America/Mexico_City > > America/Miquelon > > America/Moncton > > America/Monterrey > > America/Montevideo > > America/Montreal > > America/Montserrat > > America/Nassau > > America/New_York > > America/Nipigon > > America/Nome > > America/Noronha > > America/North_Dakota/Center > > America/North_Dakota/New_Salem > > America/Panama > > America/Pangnirtung > > America/Paramaribo > > America/Phoenix > > America/Port-au-Prince > > America/Port_of_Spain > > America/Porto_Acre > > America/Porto_Velho > > America/Puerto_Rico > > America/Rainy_River > > America/Rankin_Inlet > > America/Recife > > America/Regina > > America/Resolute > > America/Rio_Branco > > America/Rosario > > America/Santarem > > America/Santiago > > America/Santo_Domingo > > America/Sao_Paulo > > America/Scoresbysund > > America/Shiprock > > America/St_Barthelemy > > America/St_Johns > > America/St_Kitts > > America/St_Lucia > > America/St_Thomas > > America/St_Vincent > > America/Swift_Current > > America/Tegucigalpa > > America/Thule > > America/Thunder_Bay > > America/Tijuana > > America/Toronto > > America/Tortola > > America/Vancouver > > America/Virgin > > America/Whitehorse > > America/Winnipeg > > America/Yakutat > > America/Yellowknife > > Antarctica/Casey > > Antarctica/Davis > > Antarctica/DumontDUrville > > Antarctica/Mawson > > Antarctica/McMurdo > > Antarctica/Palmer > > Antarctica/Rothera > > Antarctica/South_Pole > > Antarctica/Syowa > > Antarctica/Vostok > > Arctic/Longyearbyen > > Asia/Aden > > Asia/Almaty > > Asia/Amman > > Asia/Anadyr > > Asia/Aqtau > > Asia/Aqtobe > > Asia/Ashgabat > > Asia/Ashkhabad > > Asia/Baghdad > > Asia/Bahrain > > Asia/Baku > > Asia/Bangkok > > Asia/Beirut > > Asia/Bishkek > > Asia/Brunei > > Asia/Calcutta > > Asia/Choibalsan > > Asia/Chongqing > > Asia/Chungking > > Asia/Colombo > > Asia/Dacca > > Asia/Damascus > > Asia/Dhaka > > Asia/Dili > > Asia/Dubai > > Asia/Dushanbe > > Asia/Gaza > > Asia/Harbin > > Asia/Ho_Chi_Minh > > Asia/Hong_Kong > > Asia/Hovd > > Asia/Irkutsk > > Asia/Istanbul > > Asia/Jakarta > > Asia/Jayapura > > Asia/Jerusalem > > Asia/Kabul > > Asia/Kamchatka > > Asia/Karachi > > Asia/Kashgar > > Asia/Kathmandu > > Asia/Katmandu > > Asia/Kolkata > > Asia/Krasnoyarsk > > Asia/Kuala_Lumpur > > Asia/Kuching > > Asia/Kuwait > > Asia/Macao > > Asia/Macau > > Asia/Magadan > > Asia/Makassar > > Asia/Manila > > Asia/Muscat > > Asia/Nicosia > > Asia/Novosibirsk > > Asia/Omsk > > Asia/Oral > > Asia/Phnom_Penh > > Asia/Pontianak > > Asia/Pyongyang > > Asia/Qatar > > Asia/Qyzylorda > > Asia/Rangoon > > Asia/Riyadh > > Asia/Riyadh87 > > Asia/Riyadh88 > > Asia/Riyadh89 > > Asia/Saigon > > Asia/Sakhalin > > Asia/Samarkand > > Asia/Seoul > > Asia/Shanghai > > Asia/Singapore > > Asia/Taipei > > Asia/Tashkent > > Asia/Tbilisi > > Asia/Tehran > > Asia/Tel_Aviv > > Asia/Thimbu > > Asia/Thimphu > > Asia/Tokyo > > Asia/Ujung_Pandang > > Asia/Ulaanbaatar > > Asia/Ulan_Bator > > Asia/Urumqi > > Asia/Vientiane > > Asia/Vladivostok > > Asia/Yakutsk > > Asia/Yekaterinburg > > Asia/Yerevan > > Atlantic/Azores > > Atlantic/Bermuda > > Atlantic/Canary > > Atlantic/Cape_Verde > > Atlantic/Faeroe > > Atlantic/Faroe > > Atlantic/Jan_Mayen > > Atlantic/Madeira > > Atlantic/Reykjavik > > Atlantic/South_Georgia > > Atlantic/St_Helena > > Atlantic/Stanley > > Australia/ACT > > Australia/Adelaide > > Australia/Brisbane > > Australia/Broken_Hill > > Australia/Canberra > > Australia/Currie > > Australia/Darwin > > Australia/Eucla > > Australia/Hobart > > Australia/LHI > > Australia/Lindeman > > Australia/Lord_Howe > > Australia/Melbourne > > Australia/NSW > > Australia/North > > Australia/Perth > > Australia/Queensland > > Australia/South > > Australia/Sydney > > Australia/Tasmania > > Australia/Victoria > > Australia/West > > Australia/Yancowinna > > BET > > BST > > Brazil/Acre > > Brazil/DeNoronha > > Brazil/East > > Brazil/West > > CAT > > CET > > CNT > > CST > > CST6CDT > > CTT > > Canada/Atlantic > > Canada/Central > > Canada/East-Saskatchewan > > Canada/Eastern > > Canada/Mountain > > Canada/Newfoundland > > Canada/Pacific > > Canada/Saskatchewan > > Canada/Yukon > > Chile/Continental > > Chile/EasterIsland > > Cuba > > EAT > > ECT > > EET > > EST > > EST5EDT > > Egypt > > Eire > > Etc/GMT > > Etc/GMT+0 > > Etc/GMT+1 > > Etc/GMT+10 > > Etc/GMT+11 > > Etc/GMT+12 > > Etc/GMT+2 > > Etc/GMT+3 > > Etc/GMT+4 > > Etc/GMT+5 > > Etc/GMT+6 > > Etc/GMT+7 > > Etc/GMT+8 > > Etc/GMT+9 > > Etc/GMT-0 > > Etc/GMT-1 > > Etc/GMT-10 > > Etc/GMT-11 > > Etc/GMT-12 > > Etc/GMT-13 > > Etc/GMT-14 > > Etc/GMT-2 > > Etc/GMT-3 > > Etc/GMT-4 > > Etc/GMT-5 > > Etc/GMT-6 > > Etc/GMT-7 > > Etc/GMT-8 > > Etc/GMT-9 > > Etc/GMT0 > > Etc/Greenwich > > Etc/UCT > > Etc/UTC > > Etc/Universal > > Etc/Unknown > > Etc/Zulu > > Europe/Amsterdam > > Europe/Andorra > > Europe/Athens > > Europe/Belfast > > Europe/Belgrade > > Europe/Berlin > > Europe/Bratislava > > Europe/Brussels > > Europe/Bucharest > > Europe/Budapest > > Europe/Chisinau > > Europe/Copenhagen > > Europe/Dublin > > Europe/Gibraltar > > Europe/Guernsey > > Europe/Helsinki > > Europe/Isle_of_Man > > Europe/Istanbul > > Europe/Jersey > > Europe/Kaliningrad > > Europe/Kiev > > Europe/Lisbon > > Europe/Ljubljana > > Europe/London > > Europe/Luxembourg > > Europe/Madrid > > Europe/Malta > > Europe/Mariehamn > > Europe/Minsk > > Europe/Monaco > > Europe/Moscow > > Europe/Nicosia > > Europe/Oslo > > Europe/Paris > > Europe/Podgorica > > Europe/Prague > > Europe/Riga > > Europe/Rome > > Europe/Samara > > Europe/San_Marino > > Europe/Sarajevo > > Europe/Simferopol > > Europe/Skopje > > Europe/Sofia > > Europe/Stockholm > > Europe/Tallinn > > Europe/Tirane > > Europe/Tiraspol > > Europe/Uzhgorod > > Europe/Vaduz > > Europe/Vatican > > Europe/Vienna > > Europe/Vilnius > > Europe/Volgograd > > Europe/Warsaw > > Europe/Zagreb > > Europe/Zaporozhye > > Europe/Zurich > > Factory > > GB > > GB-Eire > > GMT > > GMT+0 > > GMT-0 > > GMT0 > > Greenwich > > HST > > Hongkong > > IET > > IST > > Iceland > > Indian/Antananarivo > > Indian/Chagos > > Indian/Christmas > > Indian/Cocos > > Indian/Comoro > > Indian/Kerguelen > > Indian/Mahe > > Indian/Maldives > > Indian/Mauritius > > Indian/Mayotte > > Indian/Reunion > > Iran > > Israel > > JST > > Jamaica > > Japan > > Kwajalein > > Libya > > MET > > MIT > > MST > > MST7MDT > > Mexico/BajaNorte > > Mexico/BajaSur > > Mexico/General > > Mideast/Riyadh87 > > Mideast/Riyadh88 > > Mideast/Riyadh89 > > NET > > NST > > NZ > > NZ-CHAT > > Navajo > > PLT > > PNT > > PRC > > PRT > > PST > > PST8PDT > > Pacific/Apia > > Pacific/Auckland > > Pacific/Chatham > > Pacific/Easter > > Pacific/Efate > > Pacific/Enderbury > > Pacific/Fakaofo > > Pacific/Fiji > > Pacific/Funafuti > > Pacific/Galapagos > > Pacific/Gambier > > Pacific/Guadalcanal > > Pacific/Guam > > Pacific/Honolulu > > Pacific/Johnston > > Pacific/Kiritimati > > Pacific/Kosrae > > Pacific/Kwajalein > > Pacific/Majuro > > Pacific/Marquesas > > Pacific/Midway > > Pacific/Nauru > > Pacific/Niue > > Pacific/Norfolk > > Pacific/Noumea > > Pacific/Pago_Pago > > Pacific/Palau > > Pacific/Pitcairn > > Pacific/Ponape > > Pacific/Port_Moresby > > Pacific/Rarotonga > > Pacific/Saipan > > Pacific/Samoa > > Pacific/Tahiti > > Pacific/Tarawa > > Pacific/Tongatapu > > Pacific/Truk > > Pacific/Wake > > Pacific/Wallis > > Pacific/Yap > > Poland > > Portugal > > ROC > > ROK > > SST > > Singapore > > SystemV/AST4 > > SystemV/AST4ADT > > SystemV/CST6 > > SystemV/CST6CDT > > SystemV/EST5 > > SystemV/EST5EDT > > SystemV/HST10 > > SystemV/MST7 > > SystemV/MST7MDT > > SystemV/PST8 > > SystemV/PST8PDT > > SystemV/YST9 > > SystemV/YST9YDT > > Turkey > > UCT > > US/Alaska > > US/Aleutian > > US/Arizona > > US/Central > > US/East-Indiana > > US/Eastern > > US/Hawaii > > US/Indiana-Starke > > US/Michigan > > US/Mountain > > US/Pacific > > US/Pacific-New > > US/Samoa > > UTC > > Universal > > VST > > W-SU > > WET > > Zulu > > > > > > Doug Mueller > > > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Fannin, Teresa S. > *Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2015 2:18 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Time Zone for UTC > > > > ** > > This has been a timely post for my project. Pun intended. LOL > > Your suggestion worked for me as well and I did type it in the field. > > Teresa > > > > > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Keller, > Aaron > *Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2015 2:48 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Time Zone for UTC > > > > ** > > Ah ha! > > > > Yes, I was always annoyed that one couldn’t specify an actual time zone > for the ‘time zone’ field. The menu in the UI doesn’t actually list time > zones at all, but cities. > > > > But you made me think that maybe I should be thinking outside the box here > – or rather outside the menu! > > So rather than choosing from the menu, I manually set the ‘time zone’ > field to “Africa/Timbuktu” (a city in GMT that does not observe any DST) > and voila! Times are displayed as I want. > > > > Now I’ll try that in the field. > > > > Thanks again! > > -drake > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Mueller, > Doug > *Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2015 1:29 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Time Zone for UTC > > > > ** > > Drake, > > > > So, I found that the UI doesn’t list GMT as a timezone by itself. I > expected it to and I think it should myself… but that doesn’t help you. > > > > I did go to > > > > http://wwp.greenwichmeantime.com/countries.htm > > > > to get a list of all countries that do not obey any type of daylight > savings time scheme. > > > > Then, looking through that list to find countries that are in GMT zone > that don’t use daylight savings time. That includes > > > > Antarctica > > Gambia > > Ghana > > Guinea Bissau > > Iceland > > Liberia > > Mali > > Mauritania > > Morocco > > Senegal > > > > So, if you find a timezone for one of these countries….. You will get > what you want – GMT without timezone adjustment. > > > Doug Mueller > > > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Keller, > Aaron > *Sent:* Friday, September 18, 2015 9:36 AM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Time Zone for UTC > > > > ** > > Interesting. Ok, I’ll be a bit more specific. > > > > I have a date/time field: ‘planned outage start’. At such time that > field is changed, a filter pushes a “log” record to another form pushing > field text of: > > ("planned outage schedule changed: > > planned outage start: " + $planned outage start$) > > > > In this scenario, the user’s preference setting for ‘time zone’ is > “Europe/London”, which is shown as GMT+0:00, but in the summer is actually > GMT+1:00. (I have also tried several others marked as “Greenwich Mean > Time”, such as “Africa/Casablanca, “Europe/Sarajevo”, etc.) The midtier > and arserver in these tests are both set to UTC at the OS level – e.g. > GMT+0 with no DST. > > > > The user enters a date of “Sep 19, 2015 00:00:00” and the pushed log > record is: > > Planned change schedule changed: > > Planned change start: 09/18/2015 11:00:00 PM > > > > So in summary, I’m looking for a setting for the ‘Time Zone’ field of the > ‘AR System User Preference’ form which will be true GMT with no DST offset. > > I’ll continue to try other time zone settings. I realize that this > problem will go away in a few weeks, but thanks for your time on it. > > > > Thanks- > > -drake > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Mueller, > Doug > *Sent:* Thursday, September 17, 2015 5:15 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Re: Time Zone for UTC > > > > ** > > Drake, > > > > GMT = UTC > > > > They are the same. GMT DOES NOT obey daylight savings time. It is the > same as UTC. > > > > IST or BST or CEST (if in Antarctica) or a handful of other options are > all used for when you want daylight Savings Time offsets. > > > > So, you should be able to put GMT and get the desired result. (I > actually thought you could put UTC as well, but checking some searches on > the web I see that it seems that GMT is the successor to UTC so that term > has replaced UTC in most libraries of timezones.) > > > > Have you tried using GMT and are getting offsets due to daylight savings > time? If so, please report this as it should not be happening. > > > > I hope this helps, > > > > Doug Mueller > > > > *From:* Action Request System discussion list(ARSList) [ > mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>] *On Behalf Of *Keller, > Aaron > *Sent:* Thursday, September 17, 2015 1:36 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* Time Zone for UTC > > > > ** > > I have users that would like to have dates shown in Coordinated Universal > Time – UTC. > > In other words, not just GMT+0, but also no Daylight Saving Time > adjustment. > > > > But I cannot seem to find a time zone setting (in the ‘AR System User > Preference’ form, ‘time zone’ field) to do this. > > I submitted a ticket to BMC, and got a call back telling me that there is > no way to do that. > > > > Really? Is there really NO WAY to display Date/Time fields in UTC?!? > > > > > > Thanks- > > -drake > > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ > > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ > > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ > > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ > > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ > > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ > _ARSlist: "Where the Answers Are" and have been for 20 years_ _______________________________________________________________________________ UNSUBSCRIBE or access ARSlist Archives at www.arslist.org "Where the Answers Are, and have been for 20 years"
