Hi John, Yes, clearly my text was simplified when I talked about BGP, I actually mean all what is needed for having correctly running BGP (IRR, RPKI, even MANRS, abuse contact, DNS contacts, etc., etc.). I’ve customers (organizations) which have IPv6 PI, in different RIRs, and they run by themselves, without any issue, even very small entities, and some others that delegate all this to their transit providers. I don’t see a problem on that, and as David mention there is no distinction on that if you’re an individual/natural person and you want to pay to your upstream providers for that service, but you want to have your own addresses to have IPv6 multihoming.
Yes, clearly bad things can happen, but even you have the best NOC team and you’re are a big ISP, it happens as well. Again don’t see the difference, specially considering that the number of possible individuals willing to have their own addressing at home will be very small (possibly increasing in the next few years), but even if just 1 individual is in that situation and its cost, because its country regulation is not as good as the US/Canada one, why we should discriminate her/him? By the way, I believe most of the problems you mention, actually come from all kind of “organizations”, with business or residential customers, so I can’t buy it. I think someone having BGP at home precisely will take more “personal” care than “organizations”, that’s real world. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet > El 8 abr 2025, a las 20:20, John Curran <[email protected]> escribió: > > Jodi - > > To be clear, there is potential for a lot more operational coordination than > simply BGP… just in routing, there’s also IRR and RPKI, but looking beyond > there are also web servers, DNS servers, mail servers, etc. – all of which > can result in others who are running corresponding elements of Internet > infrastructure having to reach the address holder, not just their > directly-connected upstream carriers. > > There’s nothing wrong with making use of Internet as a private individual and > remaining that way, but to the extent that there’s Internet infrastructure > originating traffic that’s truly autonomous from your upstream providers, > then clear public attribution of the responsible entity remains essential for > maintaining smooth operation of Internet. (You may believe that it will > never be your piece of the Internet at 3 AM on Sunday that’s injecting bad > routes, relaying spam & phishing attacks, or serving as the command/control > network for botnets, but then again, that’s what everyone thinks…) > > Thanks! > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > American Registry for Internet Numbers > > >> On Apr 8, 2025, at 1:55 PM, jordi.palet--- via ARIN-PPML >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> ... >> We also need to understand that those individuals that decide to directly to >> connect to Internet and as you said “present them publicly", will only be >> able to do so via actual operators that provide them links with BGP, so that >> already ensures the operational coordination. In the end is the same for any >> smaller ISP, the overall majority of them don’t get in touch with those >> hundred thousand global operators, but only with their directly connected >> carriers, and anyway, they are engaged in public activities. >> > ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.theipv6company.com The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it.
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