It's the time spent on the list.  I waited 11 months on the list before getting 
my allocation.  Most of the organizations affected are likely to have spent 
significant time on the list (unfortunately I do not have the exact data on 
time spent waiting for affected orgs).  Spending time waiting, then get put to 
the back of the line so to speak and have to do it again, that's the issue.  
That was time wasted that could've been spent making other arrangements, hence 
they were penalized.


Jason
Brandt
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On Mon, Nov 2, 2020 at 8:42 AM Brandt, Jason via ARIN-PPML 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I find it hard to understand how you can believe that this is "special 
benefits".

Grandfathering is a common technique that addresses inequities changes create. 
Governments do it and business does it. To some extent, the could be called 
"special benefits". However, the context of that is different, some feel the 
benefits create an inequity rather than resolve one.

Organizations went through the approved process to get on the wait list to 
*possibly* be assigned an address block. The policy on allocations was changed, 
however the organizations did everything by the book per previous policy. The 
organization is now told that they have to go through the process again and 
wait longer. This has nothing to do with potential space allocation. I am all 
for limiting the allocation amount in the future. However, to penalize an 
organization that has followed the process to this point is unfair. This also 
is no guarantee that these organizations will receive an allocation. More 
likely, they'll continue to wait.
This draft policy is simply to not penalize organizations that went through the 
proper process of what was approved policy at the time. A similar scenario 
would be arresting someone who has broken a law, prior to the offense becoming 
law.


The question for me is what, clearly, is the inequity that grandfathering 
addresses? Going through the process? Waiting on the list and getting nothing? 
There were no guarantees made when a company got on the list as far as I can 
tell. The process was minimal and I don't think it in itself requires any 
special compensation. This policy, if I read the meeting minutes correctly and 
Owen's comments in them, doesn't really help with much at all.



I continue to support this policy, not because I agree that larger requests 
should be granted, but because the organizations had followed the approved 
process and policies.

I'm not entirely certain where I sit on this. So far I haven't seen strong 
arguments one way or the other.

Fair enough. Thank you.

Warm regards,

-M<


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