On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 5:46 PM, Owen DeLong <[email protected]> wrote: > On Sep 25, 2013, at 11:33 AM, William Herrin <[email protected]> wrote: >> This kind of restriction on international commerce is usually reserved >> for national security issues. Foreign interests own ARIN region >> infrastructure and do business with ARIN region customers all the >> time, without registering themselves with the government. Just as >> ARIN-region businesses do in Europe, Asia and elsewhere. Until there's >> a need for employees in a country, it's not generally necessary and >> often inappropriate to incorporate there. > > Foreign interests that own ARIN region infrastructure and do business in > the ARIN region are either legally operating within the ARIN service region, > or, they are violating the law by doing so, so I am not sure what it is that > you find objectionable. > > For example, a German company operating in Virginia that has filed all > of the necessary paperwork, has the proper permits and licenses, etc. > would qualify under the above provision.
Hi Owen, What permits, licenses or other government paperwork would a German company need to own a few routers in Ashburn, buy telco DSL lines on behalf of lata 236 customers and provide Internet access there? >> I think ARIN should continue to follow the same ordinary business >> practice everyone else does when it comes to the legal status of its >> registrants: as long as there's a contactable legal existence >> somewhere (and it's incumbent on the registrant to prove it) they >> should pass muster as an organization capable of requesting resources. > > If they aren't operating in the region, why should they be able to receive > resources from ARIN instead of having to get them from an RIR that serves > someplace that they do operate? Operating legally in a region != has a government registered legal presence in the region ARIN is not qualified to assess the former and would have a very difficult time doing so. Staff and counsel made this point in the analysis of the proposal. The latter penalizes legitimate organizations for failing to register with the government in a manner the government itself has not elected to compel by law, an action far outside ARIN's mission. Regards, Bill Herrin -- William D. Herrin ................ [email protected] [email protected] 3005 Crane Dr. ...................... Web: <http://bill.herrin.us/> Falls Church, VA 22042-3004 _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
