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Exactly. We were supposed to drop that thread. Remember, nothing of the disagreement had or has anything to do with Dogan personally. His arguments have been confronted and criticized. Nobody on this list has advocated anything about anyone personally, on the list. What's said offlist, is said offlist. So Lara has misplaced her defense in that there is no attack on Dogan to defend against. I don't doubt Dogan's intelligence, his sincerity, or his philosophical investigations. I'm not the least bit interested in his intelligence, his sincerity, or his philosophical investigations, except as they are expressed in his concrete political assertions-- like supporting the CPUSA's strategy of supporting the center-right Democrat's version of "health reform," as a viable strategy for connecting with, or creating, a mass coalition of classes, and class representatives, that will somehow become the struggle for socialism. and Les, "over" means, transmission ended, reply awaited. "out" means transmission ended, do not reply. It's either/or, it cannot be both, not even in Hegelian terms. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Les Schaffer" <schaf...@optonline.net> > > please everyone stop using subscribers names in the Subject line. > > over and out. > > Les ________________________________________________ Send list submissions to: marx...@lists.econ.utah.edu Set your options at: http://lists.econ.utah.edu/mailman/options/marxism/archive%40mail-archive.com