why you don't use containers for that? On Sat, Jun 22, 2024, 14:04 Peter Nabbefeld <peter.nabbef...@gmx.de> wrote:
> > > Am 22.06.24 um 17:22 schrieb Peter Nabbefeld: > > > > > > Am 22.06.24 um 17:13 schrieb Peter Nabbefeld: > >> > >> > >> Am 28.04.24 um 14:51 schrieb Doug Newgard: > >>> On Sun, 28 Apr 2024 12:44:03 +0200 > >>> Peter Nabbefeld <peter.nabbef...@gmx.de> wrote: > >>> > >>>> On 23.04.24 18:28, Doug Newgard wrote: > >>>>> On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 08:49:21 +0200 > >>>>> Peter Nabbefeld <peter.nabbef...@gmx.de> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>>> Hello, > >>>>>> > >>>>>> as a Java developer, I sometimes need to do compatibility checking > >>>>>> using > >>>>>> older versions, often using JRE, while I need a JDK for development. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> When I tried to update arch linux now, I found I cannot start any > >>>>>> update > >>>>>> because the update is blocked by setting JRE and JDK as conflicting > >>>>>> packages. I tried to only install JDK 21, but the update is still > >>>>>> being > >>>>>> blocked because of my older versions of the JRE. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Why do You block any software installation? I don't like the idea to > >>>>>> enforce me to use any specific software, or to remove any specific > >>>>>> one. > >>>>>> Is there any possibility to remove the lock-in? > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Kind regards, > >>>>>> Peter > >>>>>> > >>>>> There is no blocking or lock-in. First off, see > >>>>> > https://archlinux.org/news/incoming-changes-in-jdk-jre-21-packages-may-require-manual-intervention/ > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> which now applies to some of the older versions as well. > >>>> Yes, I've read this already before. It clearly states what I've > >>>> written > >>>> about: If I have a JRE installed, I cannot install a JDK any more. > >>>> That's my problem: I do need different JDKs and JREs for testing > >>>> purposes. > >>>> > >>>>> Second, exact errors, always. > >>>> "jdk-openjdk and jre-openjdk are in conflict" > >>>> > >>>> Kind regards, > >>>> Peter > >>> You didn't read very carefully then. > >>> "The JDK variant package includes the runtime environment to execute > >>> Java > >>> applications" > >> Probaly this is just not only readable in one direction? I've understood > >> this as "The JRE is not needed as the JDK contains one (internally)". > >> Probably I was wrong. > >> > >> However, I've installed these packages on my system: > >> > >> $ pacman -Ss openjdk | grep -i instal > >> extra/jdk-openjdk 22.0.1.u0-1 [Installiert: 20.0.1.u9-3] > >> extra/jdk11-openjdk 11.0.23.u9-1 [Installiert: 11.0.18.u10-2] > >> extra/jdk17-openjdk 17.0.11.u9-1 [Installiert: 17.0.6.u10-2] > >> extra/jdk21-openjdk 21.0.3.u9-1 [Installiert] > >> extra/jdk8-openjdk 8.412.u08-1 [Installiert: 8.372.u07-1] > >> extra/jre-openjdk 22.0.1.u0-1 [Installiert: 20.0.1.u9-3] > >> extra/jre-openjdk-headless 22.0.1.u0-1 [Installiert: 20.0.1.u9-3] > >> extra/jre11-openjdk 11.0.23.u9-1 [Installiert: 11.0.18.u10-2] > >> extra/jre11-openjdk-headless 11.0.23.u9-1 [Installiert: 11.0.18.u10-2] > >> extra/jre17-openjdk 17.0.11.u9-1 [Installiert: 17.0.6.u10-2] > >> extra/jre17-openjdk-headless 17.0.11.u9-1 [Installiert: 17.0.6.u10-2] > >> extra/jre8-openjdk 8.412.u08-1 [Installiert: 8.372.u07-1] > >> extra/jre8-openjdk-headless 8.412.u08-1 [Installiert: 8.372.u07-1] > >> extra/openjdk-doc 22.0.1.u0-1 [Installiert: 20.0.1.u9-3] > >> extra/openjdk-src 22.0.1.u0-1 [Installiert: 20.0.1.u9-3] > >> extra/openjdk11-src 11.0.23.u9-1 [Installiert: 11.0.18.u10-2] > >> extra/openjdk17-src 17.0.11.u9-1 [Installiert: 17.0.6.u10-2] > >> extra/openjdk8-src 8.412.u08-1 [Installiert: 8.372.u07-1] > >> > >> So, currently, no Java 21 or above. From what I've understood, these > >> packages shouldn't conflict with Java 21 and above, but it seems I have > >> to remove the older packages to get the newer ones ... > >> > >> Kind regards, > >> Peter > >> > > Sorry for the German wording - of course, "Installiert" means > > "installed" in English. One additional point I found: I can update > > single packages using "pacman -S <package name>", but I cannot update > > the whole system using "pacman -Syu", so system upgrade seems to be > > broken. > > > > Regards, > > P. > Even trying to ignore the JDK-Updates does not work, using the following > entries in /etc/pacman.conf: > > IgnorePkg = jdk9-openjdk jre9-openjdk jre9-openjdk-headless > openjdk9-doc openjdk9-src > IgnorePkg = jdk10-openjdk jre10-openjdk jre10-openjdk-headless > openjdk10-doc openjdk10-src > IgnorePkg = jdk11-openjdk jre11-openjdk jre11-openjdk-headless > openjdk11-doc openjdk11-src > IgnorePkg = jdk17-openjdk jre17-openjdk jre17-openjdk-headless > openjdk17-doc openjdk17-src > IgnorePkg = jdk20-openjdk jre20-openjdk jre20-openjdk-headless > openjdk20-doc openjdk20-src > IgnorePkg = jdk21-openjdk jre21-openjdk jre21-openjdk-headless > openjdk21-doc openjdk21-src > IgnorePkg = jdk22-openjdk jre22-openjdk jre22-openjdk-headless > openjdk22-doc openjdk22-src > > Anything else I can do? > > - P. >
