I can envision a handler wanting to know for example which of its many possible "listen" strings it was notified by. But therein lies madness, as it could be notified by many different strings. As implemented (last time I looked), a notification results in adding a task to a host's list of handlers to be run eventually - if it isn't already on the list. There's no record kept of any context per notification. Without that sort of metadata, I don't see a way to implement "smart handlers".

So lets step back a second and figure out just which problem you want to solve. True, there's a lot of redundancy in the handlers you cited, so it does feel like there should be a more elegant way to express it. However, they don't change often, and any one of them is simple enough to maintain.

What I find most compelling about your case is,"Another pile of them are there for the 'reload' state" because now you've got a slight difference between a couple of places to keep in sync. If this were C instead of YAML, you bet I'd use a preprocessor macro or three.

But this is YAML, and Jinja2, and the marvelous python freakenstein monster that is Ansible. So — and I'm not recommending this, but it /is/ another way to handle it, which is what you asked for — you could use an ansible.builtin.template step to produce a "roles/dynarole/handlers/no-regrets.yml" that contains all your service handlers, then dynamically include that role so that (I think this is how it works) those handlers would then be available for notification from any subsequent tasks in that play. You could split the playbook into a play to generate the handlers files, then subsequent plays to dynamically include or statically import them. Or you could have a separate play/playbook with the sole purpose of generating the largely redundant handlers file that you only run when your table of desired handlers - or the template that consumes it - changes.

I can't honestly argue that this is a good idea. But so far I haven't come up with any other suggestions. It's tempting to try it, if only to say, "Here's a cool thing that isn't at all wrong that I'll never do again."

Do let us know if you come up with anything!
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Todd
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On 8/24/23 11:46 AM, Dick Visser wrote:
Hii,

I have a lot of handlers to restart services, like this:

   - name: smbd_restart
      ansible.builtin.service:
        name: smbd
        state: restarted

    - name: chronyd_restart
      ansible.builtin.service:
        name: chronyd
        state: restarted

    - name: udhcpd_restart
      ansible.builtin.service:
        name: udhcpd
        state: restarted

    - name: dhcpcd_restart
      ansible.builtin.service:
        name: dhcpcd
        state: restarted

    - name: lighttpd_restart
      ansible.builtin.service:
        name: lighttpd
        state: restarted

    - name: sshd_restart
      ansible.builtin.service:
        name: sshd
        state: restarted

    - name: networking_restart
      ansible.builtin.service:
        name: networking
        state: restarted

    - name: hostapd_restart
      ansible.builtin.service:
        name: hostapd
        state: restarted

etc etc

Another pile of them are there for the 'reload' state.

According to https://docs.ansible.com/ansible/latest/playbook_guide/playbooks_handlers.html#using-variables-with-handlers variables in handler names will likely not work, and variable in listen topic for sure don't work.

Is there perhaps another way to avoid having a ton of very similar) handlers?

thx

Dick
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