Database changes can be scripted in SQL by DBAs. These SQL scripts can be 
executed from a command line. Good app config mgmt should require this as part 
of DevSecOps automated deployments and upgrades. It also serves to document 
changes to tables, indexes, etc. Database server configuration changes also 
should be scripted and configuration files placed under version control. We use 
GitLab CI/CD workflows for app deployments. We use ansible for server and 
infrastructure management.

Walter
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On Jan 4, 2023, at 3:27 AM, Norbert Klamann 
<[email protected]> wrote:

Hello all,
I use ansible to install software and do the first configuration and i like 
this very much.

But I want to achieve that I can recreate the running systems as detailled as 
posible from the outside with scripts, with ansible for example.

Maybe an example helps to clarify the problem:

Consider necxtcloud. The software consists of a webserver, a bunch of 
php-software and a database.

The **configuration** consists of
* webserver configuration
* php configuration
* config.php (nextcloud)
* tables in the database

The **data** consists of
* files in the filesystem
* tables in the databas

The webserver configuration and the php configuration can be defined in ansible 
and
distributed, no problem there.

The  configuration tables in the database are changed via the web interface, i 
don't see a realistic chance to to handle them with ansible at all.

The *config.php* can and will be changed via the web interface and If i 
overwrite the file with ansible I lose all these changes.

How do peaople handle this kind of situation ? I try to be disciplined and 
change the ansible files synchronous to configuration changes on the running 
system, but I would like to make this process bullet-proof.


Any ideas ?

Thanks a lot

Norbert

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