It tries a git ls-remote and an hg identify and then uses whichever
succeeds.

Will
On 13/08/2014 11:19 pm, "Michael DeHaan" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Yeah this is about what I was thinking?
>
> Can I ask how it determines if something is hg or git:// for a https://
> URL?
>
> Maybe we need do syntaxes like git+https:// and git+ssh://, etc?
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 8:57 AM, Will Thames <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> How does
>> https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/8600
>> look for URL based roles?
>>
>> I think I can make good use of this - I'll have to rethink our workflow
>> but the final result should be better and meet my requirements. Hopefully
>> I'll have a new blog post and I'll mark the old one as deprecated.
>>
>> Will
>>
>> On Wednesday, August 13, 2014 5:04:52 AM UTC+10, Michael DeHaan wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 8:31 PM, Will Thames <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I know your thoughts on ansible-lint - that the behaviour should be
>>>> integrated into core. But my pull request to do something along those lines
>>>> has been open for 8 months https://github.com/ansible/ansible/pull/5123
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think it's no-secret that we've had a large queue lately.
>>>
>>> A lot of our prioritzation has been around hardening of core
>>> functionality, and also keeping with EC2 and other hoping things moving.
>>>  This is still interesting to me just not something our heuristics have
>>> bubbled to the top.
>>>
>>> Part of the problem is having absolutely ridiculous levels of
>>> contribution at this point, which we are thankful for.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Anyway, to focus on the main points you make.
>>>>
>>>> My understanding is that ansible galaxy role versions matter at install
>>>> time. I guess that means that each playbook installs the roles locally.
>>>> This means that the problem of using one role version for uat and one role
>>>> version for prod is not necessarily solved is it?
>>>>
>>>
>>> playbooks don't actually install the roles, but ansible-galaxy CLI calls
>>> do.
>>>
>>> In the ansible-galaxy requirements file you can in fact say
>>>
>>> username.rolename,v1.00
>>> username.rolename2,v1.05
>>>
>>> And if you had them so configured to check out in locations (ideally
>>> using a different role path for each) that would be easy to do.  You might
>>> also have an ansible.cfg that selects this rolepath and also adds it to
>>> .gitignore
>>>
>>> One of the things missing though is the ability to (right now) specify
>>> git:// and ssh:// git locations so it doesn't just have to download from
>>> Ansible galaxy proper.
>>>
>>> I think we're also open to new formats for the requirements file if
>>> needed, as long as it can continue to support the old format.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I assume there are existing discussions on using repos other than
>>>> github - I'll have to look into this. I'm definitely keen to avoid
>>>> reinventing any wheels if I can.
>>>>
>>>> To be clear, I'm not particularly concerned about the versioning of
>>>> Ansible itself, just that the same playbook can reference different roles.
>>>>
>>>> Will
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Monday, August 11, 2014 11:02:34 PM UTC+10, Michael DeHaan wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So, let's not go down that lint-discussion road again.  We know where
>>>>> it leads.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rather, let's once again discuss how we can improve roles to do what
>>>>> we need.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for role versioning, there have been a few who have liked the
>>>>> things that chef did with their library tool (I haven't used it), and 
>>>>> we've
>>>>> posted quite a few times that we're open to making the ansible-galaxy CLI
>>>>> work better with raw SCM repos as well as versioning deps.
>>>>>
>>>>> There's also been the suggestion that ansible have a tag to assert the
>>>>> required ansible version, or perhaps it's a module.
>>>>>
>>>>> All of this seems like a good thing to do.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't particularly care for the idea of requiring a version in the
>>>>> role name, as that breaks the ability to cleanly branch the role in 
>>>>> Galaxy,
>>>>> which is handled via git tags presently.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Aug 11, 2014 at 8:45 AM, Will Thames <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Working in an environment where we hope to reuse common playbooks and
>>>>>> roles across the organisation, I've been thinking a lot on how to manage
>>>>>> updates to roles and playbooks without breaking repeatability (running 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> same playbook against the same environment should have the same result,
>>>>>> even if the two runs are separated by months).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My current strategy and some of the techniques that I use to augment
>>>>>> that is described at
>>>>>> http://willthames.github.io/2014/08/11/techniques-for-versio
>>>>>> ning-ansible.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and I plan to add some more rules for ansible-lint to allow checking
>>>>>> that roles fit the techniques (I'm not sure even whether to publish the
>>>>>> rules, but they certainly won't be core rules as they may well be 
>>>>>> entirely
>>>>>> specific to my environment)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway thoughts are welcome on whether there are better ways to do
>>>>>> it! (Particularly if there's a pure DVCS way that achieves a similar
>>>>>> outcome)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Will
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