Agreed: GRASP should normatively reference the ACP. Joel M. Halpern <[email protected]> wrote: > Claiming that ACP is not a normative reference for GRASP, since GRASP is to > run on ACP, seems a stretch. > Yes, if there is a library or API to call, that masks the knowledge. But that > could be said of a lot of normative references.
> Put differently, it has seemed to me that I need to understand at least
the
> general shape of ACP operation in order to understand GRASP operation.
Which
> is the definition I am familair with for a normative reference.
> And making it normative couples the publication in the right order. Which
> seems a good indiciation fo teh relationship.
> Yours,
> Joel
> On 5/9/17 10:47 PM, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>> On 03/05/2017 13:58, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
>>> On 03/05/2017 12:47, Martin Thomson wrote:
>> ...
>>>>> The main references for external security are
>>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-anima-bootstrapping-keyinfra
>>>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-anima-autonomic-control-plane
>>>>> which are indeed normative dependencies.
>>>>
>>>> Both are informative.
>>>
>>> Oh. Well, technically you don't need to know how they work in order
>>> to implement GRASP. I'll do whatever the community wants, of course.
>>
>> The reason that these two references are currently Informative
>> in GRASP is that a person coding the protocol has no need to
>> understand their details. (She will need to understand the ACP's
>> API, but that is not described in the ACP draft.) Therefore,
>> technically, although using the ACP is a SHOULD requirement in
>> GRASP, my understanding of the rules is that it is not a
>> normative reference.
>>
>> The downside is that if we get into the RFC Editor queue, GRASP
>> could in theory be published before the ACP becomes an RFC.
>> That seems wrong.
>>
>> Opinions, please!
>>
>> Brian
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