Good to know. Thanks Rick.  --dawn

On Tuesday, July 21, 2015 at 9:19:30 AM UTC-5, Rick Tessner wrote:
>
> Hi Dawn,
>
> The egghead.io folk have been doing a few videos on Angular 2 using ES5. 
> Definitely more template code than if you're using ES6 but it does show 
> that it is quite possible to write Angular 2 with ES5.
>
> I believe those videos are for pro-subscribers only but I've found it 
> worth the money.
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:08 PM, Dawn Wolthuis <[email protected] 
> <javascript:>> wrote:
>
>> I would like some help understanding where ES6 fits in the Angular 2.0 
>> picture. It is not yet "perfectly clear" to me whether folks who will are 
>> learning Angular 1.4 today with ES5 will be compelled to learn ES6 in order 
>> to transition to Angular 2.0. I have heard (here, I think) that it is not 
>> required, but I have also seen no evidence that there will be a lot of ES5 
>> materials for those doing Angular 2.0 with ES5 in the future. 
>>
>> Given that some folks moving to Angular 1.x today are highly proficient 
>> in other non-OO programming languages but have little to no OO experience, 
>> I would prefer that they could learn ES5 and keep going with that in a 
>> transition to Angular 2.0. I would definitely prefer that I could at least 
>> tell them this is likely a wise scenario. ng-1.x/ES5 -> ng-2.0/ES5 -> 
>> (someday maybe) ng-m.x/ES6.
>>
>> I am hopeful that we can decouple Angular 2.0 training and migration (in 
>> the future) from ES6 training and migration -- preferring to put off the 
>> latter indefinitely or at least until it can be expected to run in the 
>> browser. However, we do want the wealth of training materials available in 
>> videos etc from the web for our Angular 2.0 training. We would like to use 
>> commonly accepted approaches for this development. At this point, it seems 
>> that most (all?) examples have the two tied together -- the developer must 
>> leap from Angular 1 to Angular 2 while also jumping through OO hoops to 
>> adopt OO patterns (for no highly apparent reason -- perhaps it is the 
>> notion that after a half-century of developers writing applications without 
>> OO, it is now essential in any language or else that throwing everything 
>> into one language is better than keeping it simple?). [I might not really 
>> be a snarky person outside of my Angular 2.0 distrust, smiles.] With a few 
>> exceptions, as someone else here mentioned, ES6 solves a problem that does 
>> not currently trouble us. It introduces a problem that does -- lack of OO 
>> experience by some, not all, LOB developers.
>>
>> Please help me understand whether it will be wise to couple Angular 2.0 
>> with ES6+transpiler, rather than coding in the same language we must debug 
>> in within the browser. Obviously, a developer would then need to understand 
>> both ES6 (for the source) and generated ES5 (which will run in the browser).
>>
>> Please clue me in on a) whether ES6 will, for all intents and purposes, 
>> be required in a move to Angular 2.0 b) whether it will be more difficult, 
>> perhaps due to lack of materials, for a site to move from Angular 1 to 2 
>> without also moving from ES5 to 6 and c) whether you think that it would be 
>> wise to bite the bullet and do the move from Angular 1 to 2 and from ES5 to 
>> 6 all at the same time.
>>
>> Thanks.  --dawn
>>
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