JBQ,
I may be reading what you've written in a different way to you've intended,
but it reads very much like you guys see Google produced Android stuff from
the internal Google repository as "Android", and anything else (including
the public repository) is being an offshoot project.

Al.



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Queru
Sent: 05 April 2009 17:08
To: [email protected]
Subject: [android-developers] Re: Cupcake SDKs available for download


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On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 8:45 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi JBQ,
>
> - Who decides what is an official SDK of an open project :)?

The owners of the discussion group where "official" SDKs are supported :)

Within the limits of the various licenses (which are generally very
permissive), it's possible for someone to legally download source code from
the Android Open-Source Project, compile it, redistribute the compiled
result, and even support it with their own resources. As long as there's
enough separation between those projects and the official SDK that is used
to develop applications for devices that bear the Android logo, there
shouldn't be any major issue. That being said, it's probably not entirely
beneficial for the Android community as a whole if app developers are
presented with a multitude of slightly different and incompatible
development environment, but I do understand the motivation behind what
you're doing.

> - There is no guarantee of future compatibility on any SDK (see my 
> issue with buttons posted a couple of days ago).

Yeah, compatibility isn't always as good as we'd like it to be, especially
as it's not always clearly documented what behaviors can potentially vary
and therefore can't be strongly relied on by applications (especially when
there's currently no way to make those vary on the SDK), but with unofficial
development environments built from branches in intermediate states there's
a much more explicit risk of e.g. APIs that disappear entirely or behaviors
being suddenly protected by permissions, i.e. of applications that grossly
fail to compile or load.

There's definitely a relevant use case around being able to "preview"
existing apps on newer "in-development" versions of the platform, without
necessarily exposing any new platform APIs, so that compatibility issues can
be spotted earlier. Technical limitations have made this impractical with
the existing SDK infrastructure, but that issue has been on our minds for a
while.

> - Thanks for the window SDK pointer, I'm installing cygwin now.
>
> - If someone wants to setup a bit torrent tracker then I'll like to 
> the torrent file, but I don't want to run a tracker and seeds on my
servers.
>
> Al.
>
>
> ---
>
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>
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
> Jean-Baptiste Queru
> Sent: 05 April 2009 14:12
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [android-developers] Re: Cupcake SDKs available for download
>
>
> -I'd like to point out that this isn't an official SDK, with e.g. no 
> guarantee that applications developed with it will work on future 
> versions of Android. Should anyone have questions about using it, 
> please use the android-discuss group as android-developers is for 
> questions about the official SDKs, and be sure to mention which 
> specific version of Al's SDK you're using.
>
> -Al, you might be looking for this:
> http://android.git.kernel.org/?p=platform/development.git;a=blob;f=doc
> s/howt
> o_build_SDK.txt;h=4b6507d4a0bf0dfaed5e1660b858caf641e8eccd;hb=b3fb2a6e
> f1df35
> 34dee5b1d09ab72d129d3697c7#l92
>
> -How about distributing it with BitTorrent? This seems like a perfect 
> use case.
>
> JBQ
>
> On Sun, Apr 5, 2009 at 12:42 AM, Al Sutton <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I've compiled up the Linux & Mac OS X Intel SDKs from the public git 
>> repository and have put them up for download (If anyone can get 
>> instructions on building a Windows SDK I will do what I can to create 
>> a Windows SDK as well).
>>
>> *PLEASE NOTE* In order to ensure that I don't end up with a massive 
>> bandwidth bill you will need to log into AndAppStore to download the 
>> SDKs, and, if things get silly, download limits may be introduced.
>>
>> You are, of course, free to pass on the SDK to as many people as you 
>> want after you've downloaded, but please do not pass around links to 
>> direct downloads without logins at AndAppStore because I'd like to 
>> continue to update them but if a bandwidth cost issue comes up then I
> won't.
>>
>> Anyway, once you've logged into AndAppStore the link to the Cupcake 
>> SDKs is in the Developers Area menu on the right of the page.
>>
>>
>> Al.
>>
>> ---
>>
>> * Written an Android App? - List it at http://andappstore.com/ *
>>
>> ======
>> Funky Android Limited is registered in England & Wales with the 
>> company number  6741909. The registered head office is Kemp House, 
>> 152-160 City Road, London,  EC1V 2NX, UK.
>>
>> The views expressed in this email are those of the author and not 
>> necessarily those of Funky Android Limited, it's associates, or it's 
>> subsidiaries.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
> Android Engineer, Google.
>
> Questions sent directly to me that have no reason for being private 
> will likely get ignored or forwarded to a public forum with no further
warning.
>
>
>
>
> >
>



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Jean-Baptiste M. "JBQ" Queru
Android Engineer, Google.

Questions sent directly to me that have no reason for being private will
likely get ignored or forwarded to a public forum with no further warning.




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