I am finding it very hard to believe and empathise or believe you.
First, you mention that T-Mobile "could care less," but failed to
mention the fact that you are not a T-Mobile customer.  In another
post you mention that you are not only a user, but a developer,
however, in a later post you mention "If I WAS an Android developer."
The way I read your first post was as if you WERE an Android
developer.  Reading into that was probably my own fault, but it does
seem like you are being a bit misleading.

Is it possible that there are other details you have not revealed?

You also seem to be describing all sorts of issues, some that sound
like the phone causing you problems, and another that sounds like you
are using Eclipse to do some development and that when running an app
from there, the Device Picker lists the phone several times.  If you
are experiencing issues on a particular computer, try out another (if
that is possible) and report those findings.

Even though you "really don't want to know what's going on with [your]
phone," I will suggest trying to connect to the phone with ADB and
perform a Logcat and see if there are any hints as to what could be
the issue.

Perhaps after you are done venting and have had a chance to calm down
a bit you will be willing to work with the developers and others to
perhaps isolate the problem.  Although this is the first time I've
heard of this issue with RC33, it may be possible that there is
another user or two experiencing the same symptoms.   Help the
community out and the community will help you.  It's give and take.


~clark


On Feb 11, 11:12 pm, Stoyan Damov <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 2:32 AM, Dianne Hackborn <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 3:22 PM, Stoyan Damov <[email protected]>
> > wrote:
>
> >> Who shall I rant to? T-Mobile? They could care less - they don't
> >> manufacture the device and they don't develop the OS. HTC? They don't
> >> develop the OS.
>
> > Actually the G1 is T-Mobile's phone, and they do very much care about broken
> > updates, and I am sure would like to hear about this.
>
> The thing is that I'm not a T-Mobile customer, I just own a T-Mobile
> G1 device, so I'm pretty sure T-Mobile could care less for me.
>
>
>
> > I am very sorry you are having this problem, but you seem to be assuming
> > that your experience matches that of everyone else who has gotten the
> > update, which as far as I know is not the case at all.  For example, I was
> > running the OTAed 1.1 on my phone for quite a while, with no trouble.
>
> The update has been released recently, we'll see.
>
>
>
> > It would certainly be interesting to know what is going on with your phone,
> > however your posts so far indicate that you aren't really interested in that
> > but just want to yell.  Which is fine, but it isn't going to help anyone
> > much.
>
> I really don't want to know what's going on with my phone. It's not
> interesting to me - if I was an Android developer, or if I had time to
> play and find bugs perhaps it would be. The fact that the update sets
> me back at least 1 day is very frustrating - I either have to upgrade
> the dev tools to 1.1 and be frustrated as a developer (and hope
> everybody will update their phones, which, I think is inevitable given
> the awfully nagging dialog) or downgrade to 1.0 and loose all my data
> on the device and be frustrated as a user.
>
> In other words, yes, I wanted to yell! I very much doubt that begging
> for help (elsewhere) would actually help me, because you see, while
> you seem to want to help, you also assumed I'm the only one
> experiencing this. Just like when I was the "only one" experiencing
> the lost unlinked files bug...
>
> It's not that I want to yell to you or any other particular Android
> developer on the list, but yes, I want to yell at Google's Android
> development *team* for the broken update.
>
> Cheers,
> Stoyan
>
>
>
> > --
> > Dianne Hackborn
> > Android framework engineer
> > [email protected]
>
> > Note: please don't send private questions to me, as I don't have time to
> > provide private support.  All such questions should be posted on public
> > forums, where I and others can see and answer them.
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