You don't use an IDE to actually build the Android source tree, do you?

On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 9:11 AM, Romain Guy <[email protected]> wrote:

> The C++ plugin I found has not been updated in ages. It might work for NDK
> dev but Android's source tree was just too much :)
> On Mar 12, 2013 9:01 AM, "Ian Ni-Lewis" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>  How complex is your build? IntelliJ's built-in build system works fine
> for me; I've never had to touch an ant file.
>
> There are a couple of C++ plugins for IntelliJ. I haven't used them, but
> it's hard to imagine them being worse for NDK work than Eclipse CDT ;-)
>
> On Tuesday, March 12, 2013 8:35:37 AM UTC-7, Romain Guy (Google) wrote:
>
>> We use make internally but I used ant on personal apps. You can map an
>> ant target to a key shortcut in IntelliJ which makes dev. a little nicer.
>> On Mar 12, 2013 1:17 AM, "Jason Polites" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>  Well that pretty much seals the deal for me.  Intellij it is.
>>>
>>> I presume this means using ANT as the build system?  I've had all sorts
>>> of trials and tribulations with the ANT build system for Android, although
>>> in fairness most of this has been caused by trying to push it beyond it's
>>> comfort zone (generating mocks, code coverage etc)
>>>
>>> Thanks Romain.. love your work ;)
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 12:33 AM, Romain Guy <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> I use IntelliJ for all my Android framework development work and I have
>>>> used it to work on apps such as the stock Launcher and a couple of personal
>>>> apps. I can live without ADT since the most critical tools are available as
>>>> standalone apps (DDMS, hierarchyviewer, traceview, etc.) You will probably
>>>> miss some of the niceties of ADT so you should give it a try and see how it
>>>> feels for you.
>>>>
>>>> IntelliJ is definitely not very good for native code which is why I use
>>>> Eclipse (with only the CDT plugin) at the same time. If you have enough RAM
>>>> it's a pretty good setup overall: Eclipse for C/C++ and IntelliJ for
>>>> everything else.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:47 PM, Jason <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> OK.. I've just about had enough of eclipse.  I have been using it for
>>>>> 10+ years (ever since it was WSAD :/) and have put up with it's slowness,
>>>>> buggyness, upgrade nightmares, plugins that don't work, plugins that do
>>>>> work.. then don't, random crashes etc etc... but I just can't take it
>>>>> anymore.
>>>>>
>>>>> This latest version of eclipse (Juno Service Release 2 Build id:
>>>>> 20130225-0426) is so riddled with bugs that I can't get through just
>>>>> a few hours with either my delete key not working (
>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/**questions/2539672/my-delete-**
>>>>> key-wont-work-in-eclipse-in-**os-x<http://stackoverflow.com/questions/2539672/my-delete-key-wont-work-in-eclipse-in-os-x>),
>>>>> files not saving, a veritable "torrent" of NullPointerExceptions in the
>>>>> Error Log which manifest as random UI failures mixed in with the 
>>>>> occasional
>>>>> but predictable complete crash followed by a "build the world" on restart
>>>>> that takes about 3 days.
>>>>>
>>>>> I love eclipse, but enough is enough.
>>>>>
>>>>> So.. is intellij for Android development a realistic option?
>>>>>  Obviously Google make plugins for eclipse so this is always going to be
>>>>> the first stop for SDK updates, but if anyone is out there who has made 
>>>>> the
>>>>> switch from eclipse to intellij *specifically for Android work* please
>>>>> let me know your opinion.
>>>>>
>>>>> I also do a reasonable amount in C++ using the CDT (which is a whole
>>>>> other source of issues) and I understand that this is not a strong point
>>>>> for intellij (?)
>>>>>
>>>>> I really wish the folks at eclipse (whoever they are) would stop
>>>>> trying to build features and just make the darn thing stable... I mean 10
>>>>> years.. c'mon guys.
>>>>>
>>>>> :/
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