On my Acer Iconia Tab I get the soft menu represented by 3 horizontal lines on the toolbar at the bottom that contains the time and battery information. So it defently shows even if there isn't a hard button for the menu. I will say from experience it took me a while to figure out what button was the "menu" button on this thing as it was my first tablet and I was accustomed to seeing the word MENU as a hard button on the phone itself. Seems like it might just be an Id10T error.
From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Francisco Marzoa Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 6:37 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [android-developers] Re: Nexus 7 has no menu button? Well, bear in mind that I was about to install the application just for helping you for free, so I am actually not interested on it enough to read the app description... Anyway I realized after writing my previous message that N7 has no phone at all, so that permission has no effect neither... so I installed the app and it actually SHOWS the menu soft button at bottom right as expected. May be some users are just "special"... On Sep 20, 2012 12:26 AM, "Keith Wiley" <[email protected]> wrote: OYE! We're off topic and this is a very common complaint. People butt heads with me over the permissions all. the. time. It's so frustrating. I do the best I can to explain these things up front on the Android Market (or "Google Play" [worst name ever]) but the Google Play interface is not amenable to disseminating this kind of information efficiently. For example, I offer an explanation for the various permissions right there on Google Play in the app description, but people don't read it anyway...and then they give me a hard time about the permissions even though I explained before they ever install the app! I can't stand it!!! :-D <laughing-at-the-absurdity-of-the-situation> The app is a spreadsheet. The ability to jump to the phone dialer was a specific user request (not even my idea) to enable users to tap phone numbers in spread sheets and jump to the dialer app to easy calling. It's really quite an intuitive concept when you think about it, I thought it was a fantastic suggestion from a user interfaced point of view, but you honestly would not believe how much grief I've gotten over it. On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 3:09:30 PM UTC-7, Fran wrote: Why it needs permission to call phone numbers? I rather like to try it on my N7, but no with such permission, indeed. On Sep 19, 2012 11:53 PM, "Keith Wiley" <[email protected]> wrote: Shead Spreet Lite. I would also be curious about WildSpectra Mobile Lite. Since they are built in very similar ways (w.r.t. the basic OS framework and model) I expect their menu behavior to be similar such that verifying with either one should inform me about both...I presume. Thanks a bunch! On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:47:56 PM UTC-7, Fran wrote: What's your app? Is on Google play? On Sep 19, 2012 11:36 PM, "Keith Wiley" <[email protected]> wrote: Well, that's fair. I'm not denying the the current release is a little old and targets older SDKs. The app could certainly benefit from some sprucing up. However, I wanted to verify whether the app *should* essentially work on modern hardware given that some users were emailing me saying they didn't know how to access the menus. There's a big difference between saying I ought to update my app when I get a chance to keep things smooth and modern and saying the app is effectively broken on modern hardware and won't work until I release an emergency patch to get it going again. I was just trying to get a better picture of the circumstances. I *think* this discussion has cleared it up, and I *think* my app should be working on modern devices, albeit through an OS sidedoor meant as a temporary fix until older apps are updated. I'll have to try to find a Nexus to test it on myself to be absolutely certain of the circumstances. Thanks again. On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 2:27:36 PM UTC-7, Fran wrote: What Mark said is that you did things the "standard" way, users without hard menu button will see a soft one. But if you did it another way, it won't be shown. So you should update your app. On Sep 19, 2012 11:08 PM, "Keith Wiley" <[email protected]> wrote: On Wednesday, September 19, 2012 1:58:42 PM UTC-7, bob wrote: Many of the latest Android devices have eliminated the hard menu key found on earlier hardware. Consequently, it's now the responsibility of app developers to include soft menu keys in their apps. Um, forgive me, but this response seems fundamentally at odds with Mark's initial response. Which response is closer to the correct answer? Is my app inherently broken on such devices or not? Thank you. -- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Android Developers" group. 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