Hi Andrea,

I haven't tried the Pro version yet, but the WhiteBoard looks great.
It's the one feature that to me was missing compared to other
products. So this is a great addition... Well done! Congratulations!

Now that the Pro version is out, what will happen with the Open Source
product? I like Agilo, I'm using it at work with our team, and would
like to continue using it and contributing to Agilo. Will you continue
to make the Open Source version available?

Licensing isn't cut and dry at all. As far as I'm concerned, in the
open source world, if you use the product you should be prepared to
contribute something back to the product and the community. That's how
the community and the product thrive. Licensing the same product or
one with slightly more advanced features and bundling with services
shouldn't be an issue at all (not everyone wants to participate in an
open source community). I'm not convinced that the product features
should differentiate open source vs commercial, but most certainly the
bundled services should.

Now the cost... Our industry suffers from the "shoe maker's son"
syndrome. We build applications and software tools for our customers
and charge a mint for them, but absolutely refuse to pay for tools and
services that help us do our jobs better. I've been in this industry
for over 20 years and project after project I've had the same
frustrating experience. In the end we give up the battle and settle on
Word documents, Excel spreadsheets, Powerpoint presentations and
shared folders on a network drive as our repository and version
control tool... Reading through the posts and replies here, the
pricing you are suggesting isn't at all unreasonable for a great
product...

Here's my two cents - for those development shops prepared to invest
the time and effort to setup the environment/install the tool
themselves and contribute back to the product/community, the open
source tool is available (maybe even with all the features). For those
who just want to buy a tool with an installer, have the work done for
them, and require ongoing services and support and perhaps bundled
training, the commercial version is available. The commercial version
customers will be the ones raising bugs and requesting new features
and those of us in the open source community will be the ones fixing
the bugs, contributing the new features, and even doing most of the
early testing. Like I said, my two cents...

Have you considered "enlisting" the support of your open source
community, assigning bugs to be fixed, assigning new features, or
assigning posts/questions to be addressed? I would be willing to "sign
up". In fact, that is how I see the users in the open source community
"paying" for the use of such a great product, by giving something
back...

Here's a few examples...
1) not long ago I was having a problem importing and linking tickets
(http://groups.google.com/group/agilo/browse_thread/thread/
507934e778a3cadd?hl=en). Work needs to be done to add a new feature to
CSV Import to support this. Felix said patches are welcome. So now I'm
working on it. I'm new to Python so it will take a while, but when I'm
done it will add a new feature. You should know this so you know it's
coming and can consider this in your release planning, perhaps even
open up a ticket so other users will know also...
2) recently, another user was having problems with trac-digest.py
(http://groups.google.com/group/agilo/browse_thread/thread/
7e53f936f5ff482f?hl=en). I had the same problem. So I fixed trac-
digest.py (indentation problem) and went a step further and added some
functionality. This should be attached to a ticket and made available
to other users also...
3) a few months ago you posted a request on the blog for support/help
with the VM Appliance build. I didn't respond at the time, but started
working on building an appliance based on Sun's VirtualBox. I now have
it in production. I have a few more things to work on (I need to go
through an upgrade to understand all the steps involved) and I intend
to build a utility to automate much of the actual VM build process,
and then I only have to worry about exporting and importing sample
data. Perhaps this too should be a ticket so other users are aware
it's coming or vote on whether it's of value...

Are these things of value? Would it help to know other ideas people
have? What about raising these ideas as features for future releases
or raising tickets on issues/defects that users in the open source
community can work on?

Thanks for a great product!!

Bryan


On Jun 29, 2:20 am, ANdreaT <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>  we released yesterday the first BETA of Agilo Pro 1.0, which adds on
> top of Agilo a - we hope so - nice virtual whiteboard that should
> allow the teams to use the tool more "intuitively" and productively.
> This is the first BETA and we are looking forward for your feedback.
> Agilo Pro uses a completely rewritten engine, which will be released
> soon as Agilo for Scrum 0.8 (still Open Source), we should have
> achieved some improved performance and also a bit more of usability.
> The UI didn't change so much for now, but we improved a lot the
> support for Internet Explorer 7 and 8 and also for the windows users,
> introducing the first Windows Installer, that will completely install
> Agilo, including a small demo project to play around with. You will
> not even need to install python now, the Windows Installer comes with
> the embedded runtime and should just work.
>
>  To try out the BETA of the Pro version, just download the appropriate
> egg for your platform (2.4, 2.5 or 2.6) and install it using
> easy_install. You will find informations on how to activate the 30
> days trial license on the agile42 website. Please note that the trial
> is only related to the Pro features, so once expired you will still
> have a fully working Agilo environment :-)
>
>  Please send us feedback using this User Group, or 
> thehttp://getsatisfaction.com/agile42:-)
>
> Thanks & have fun :-)
> ANdreaT
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