Title: Re: [AFMUG] usage based billing
Cameron,

+1

I think everyone should allow a customer to track usage regardless of UBB.  Our system uses PPPoE with radius accounting dumped in to a SQL database.  Usage is updated every 5 minutes or so.  Our web page shows current month and two previous months.  Customer can click on month and get daily break down.  Click on the day and get hourly break down.

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Mark                            
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Myakka Technologies, Inc.
www.MyakkaTech.com

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Thursday, April 5, 2018, 9:33:39 AM, you wrote:


The key to UBB is notification. Are you notifying them at certain thresholds? If not then you will be supporting it forever. Does you portal show past and current usage? Can customers choose their notification thresholds? Even better would be breaking down the traffic by web/video/gaming/email although I know that is more difficult unless you are using something with DPI or if you want to write a lot of rules and/or analyze netflow traffic, but would make it nice for the customer to see exactly what is happening and wouldn't leave any question as to what was causing the usage.


On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 8:01 AM, Dave <
[email protected]> wrote:

Lewis,
Yea, I know especially the issue with support on the platform now but I am talking to a 3rd party support element that is eager to help us with it.
We are using freeside for this project. I mainly want to hit the high tier power users with a package for overage and slow down. This seems to be
the problem area with some that just watch tv all day in UHD and kids come home and drag the rest of the pipe down.
I dont use ppoe and never have. We are using DHCP-static and vlans for access.
I would imagine that it wouldnt take much to implement.
Thanks
dave


On 04/04/2018 01:54 PM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

Well....I pity you on your billing platform but I understand it. I would look into using RADIUS. At least when I was doing it, it was well supported. I can't imagine Cambium would remove the functionality when it already worked. You have to make a number of entries into the config to allow the routers and AP's to forward those packets to the RADIUS server without being rejected but that is a one time config. We used FreeRADIUS when we did it. Don't know what you are using but the feature is part of the RADIUS standard so I would think they would all be capable.

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 1:36 PM Dave <
[email protected]> wrote:

Hmm, ok..
We are moving everything towards radius soon anyways for a complete zero touch setup down to techs using tablets for final signature and payment on site.
I did not think of radius pulling that data but absolutely.
We still use freeside for our billing CRM.

Thanks
Dave



On 04/04/2018 11:32 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote:

Well, Are you taking about what to use for billing? There are a few that require edge boxes to monitor traffic. You could use RADIUS. We used to use that. Takes a bit to get it correct but MT supports sending periodic updates with byte counters to track usage. Your billing platform would have to support the logic to pull it from the DB and do some if over x type logic I would guess.

On Wed, Apr 4, 2018 at 10:40 AM Dave <[email protected]> wrote:


Anyone using usage based billing on their networks? If so what are you using?
What is good for an all mikrotik routed network?



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