So, we have been working with Rodeo for nearly a year as they slowly get their system ready for launch. Technically, Realchoice is a better and more "finished" product, but the pricing left Zero margin for me to be able to sell, and the private line requirement PLUS a significant monthly minimum made it a non-starter.
Rodeo, what they are offering to sell is more flexible channel lineup at prices that you can make a decent margin. If they can get the technical issues past them they will be a great option. They have made a lot of progress but it's been a very painful process to work through. Communication and transparency from them has been very poor, but improving lately. If server plus/ realchoice could find a way to get their pricing in line they'd be a slam dunk. I had a frank discussion with someone there a few months ago and the feedback I got was, we think our pricing is perfect, take it or leave it. On Feb 23, 2018 9:35 PM, "Clint Wiley" <[email protected]> wrote: > I’m a trigger puller. That’s why I asked originally. I’m looking for > feedback now as I don’t plan to dwell on it for long. > > Thanks, > _________________________ > Clint Wiley > Hagerstown Fiber Internet > > > On Feb 23, 2018, at 8:57 PM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: > > The thing is, while you're waiting someone else is selling a service to > your customer.....and you're carrying the traffic without getting anything > out of it. > > > ------ Original Message ------ > From: "Clint Wiley" <[email protected]> > To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > Sent: 2/23/2018 7:01:33 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV > > That’s actually a good point. This is a rapidly moving area. I don’t want > to choose the wrong technology/solution. > > Thanks, > _________________________ > Clint Wiley > Hagerstown Fiber Internet > > > On Feb 23, 2018, at 6:23 PM, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > > The statement of the week... > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Matt Hoppes" <[email protected]> > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Friday, February 23, 2018 5:04:40 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV > > Maybe. Time will tell. > > On Feb 23, 2018, at 17:46, Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > > I think those that go over the public Internet don't have nearly the same > lineup. > > > > ----- > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions <http://www.ics-il.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/ICSIL> > <https://plus.google.com/+IntelligentComputingSolutionsDeKalb> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/intelligent-computing-solutions> > <https://twitter.com/ICSIL> > Midwest Internet Exchange <http://www.midwest-ix.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/mdwestix> > <https://www.linkedin.com/company/midwest-internet-exchange> > <https://twitter.com/mdwestix> > The Brothers WISP <http://www.thebrotherswisp.com/> > <https://www.facebook.com/thebrotherswisp> > > > <https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCXSdfxQv7SpoRQYNyLwntZg> > ------------------------------ > *From: *[email protected] > *To: *[email protected] > *Sent: *Friday, February 23, 2018 4:16:50 PM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV > > Well, the are all allowing all the other streamers to deliver it via the > public internet, why not RCTV? > > Does not seem fair to discriminate against the smaller companies like this. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Clint Wiley > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:12 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV > > I agree that a VPN makes plenty of sense. I get why they do it but it adds > an expense that may take me a good bit of time to recover. > > Thanks, > _________________________ > > Clint Wiley > Hagerstown Fiber Internet > > > On Feb 23, 2018, at 4:56 PM, "[email protected]" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > That is not by choice. The content providers all have a different > > tolerance as to how their product is piped around. RealChoice could > drop > > it and probably ship the product over the public internet and never get > > caught, however they risk losing channels if they ever get caught. > > > > Not sure what their current deal is, when I was working with them I was > > trying to get the programmers to allow content via VPN or VLAN over VPN > > (silly, right) over the public internet. Some of them were OK with it. > > > > -----Original Message----- From: Matt Hoppes > > Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 2:46 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] RodeoTV vs. RealChoice TV > > > > RealChoice would be a great option if they would drop their private line > > requirement. > > > >> On Feb 23, 2018, at 15:39, Clint Wiley <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> I wanted to see if any of you are offering IPTV to your customers. If > so, > >> are any of you using either RodeoTV or RealChoice TV as the wholesale > >> provider? Can any of you provide feedback, thoughts, experiences, etc. > on > >> either provider? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> _________________________ > >> Clint Wiley > >> Hagerstown Fiber Internet > > > >
