In the capitalist system, without regulation, there is a funnel toward the very top; the pinnacle. Consolidation after consolidation, an oligarchy - built on the backs of the masses, with or without their consent.
On Dec 4, 2016 9:04 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" <[email protected]> wrote: > Interesting perspective > I can see the cord cutting component of consumer demand putting it on the > purchased service from a provider, but I just cant wrap my head around > government rebates on "green" tech being a component of pure capitalism > since it demands that unwilling participants kick into the kitty for > individuals to gain benefits, that sounds more socialist, even if it only > benefits those wealthy enough to buy green tech > > On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 8:26 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> "just like cord cutting, and all the newest bestest greenest, >> efficientest, its always on somebody elses back" >> >> - capitalism >> >> Although you could replace from cord cutting to efficientest with >> "everything" and it would be "samesies" >> >> On Dec 4, 2016 5:53 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> capitalism has no mandate to offset others costs through forcible >>> taxation that im aware. unless we are talking about the exchange of >>> responsibilities via voluntary taxation of mileage in exchange for access >>> to group resources like federal taxes. still not sure id call that strict >>> capitalism >>> >>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 5:26 PM, Josh Reynolds <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> You realize what you just described in the strictest sense is called >>>> capitalism, right? >>>> >>>> On Dec 4, 2016 3:41 PM, "That One Guy /sarcasm" < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> just like cord cutting, and all the newest bestest greenest, >>>>> efficientest, its always on somebody elses back. if its regulation you >>>>> want, its regulation you get...to get any, even a single penny, subsidy >>>>> for >>>>> "green tech, youre required to come to the dmv twice a yer for an odometer >>>>> reading and tax form for you to pay your taxes. your vehicle has a huge >>>>> environmental liability with the batteries (this should make the climate >>>>> changers cream) so if you dont register a sale of the electric car, and >>>>> dont get your odometer read, then you just get an annual tax bill for >>>>> 250,000 miles >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Dec 4, 2016 at 1:05 PM, Brian Webster < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Imagine the motorhome also having a solar powered hydrogen fuel cell >>>>>> to either make the hydrogen or have enough power to recharge the >>>>>> batteries. >>>>>> Depending on how far you can go just on batteries and how long it takes >>>>>> to >>>>>> recharge on solar, you could pace your travels to be darn near free >>>>>> driving. >>>>>> >>>>>> The one thing that governments are starting to struggle with now is >>>>>> the road taxes that are technically owed. Right now they collect it as >>>>>> the >>>>>> gas/fuel pump for every gallon of fuel you purchase. I know in NY state >>>>>> technically if you own an electric car you are supposed to calculate your >>>>>> mileage driven on electric and then enter that on your tax return to >>>>>> calculate how much you owe in road taxes that you did not pay at a gas >>>>>> pump. I am sure that is honestly reported by citizens just like they are >>>>>> supposed to report all of their on line purchases that did not have NY >>>>>> state sales taxes collected....... >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank You, >>>>>> Brian Webster >>>>>> www.wirelessmapping.com >>>>>> www.Broadband-Mapping.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Andrews >>>>>> Sent: Friday, December 02, 2016 6:39 PM >>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 1000hp, 1,200mile range truck - hydrogen >>>>>> >>>>>> This is what I want for a motor home, along with autopilot a la >>>>>> tesla... >>>>>> The easiest way to see north america as possible... >>>>>> >>>>>> On 12/02/2016 03:35 PM, George Skorup wrote: >>>>>> > I would really like to see passenger vehicles and small trucks go >>>>>> > hybrid hydrogen/electric. Even better would be an any-fuel hybrid >>>>>> electric. >>>>>> > Hydrogen, propane or NG and a regular gas tank for reserve. Either >>>>>> > that, or a gas turbine like an M1 Abrams that can burn anything, but >>>>>> > it would obviously need to get better fuel economy than 5 gallons >>>>>> per mile. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On 12/2/2016 4:49 PM, Josh Reynolds wrote: >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> Nikola Motor Company reveals hydrogen fuel cell truck with range of >>>>>> >> 1,200 miles - >>>>>> >> http://arstechnica.co.uk/cars/2016/12/nikola-hydrogen-fuel-c >>>>>> ell-truck >>>>>> >> / >>>>>> >> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your >>>>> team as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team >>> as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >>> >> > > > -- > If you only see yourself as part of the team but you don't see your team > as part of yourself you have already failed as part of the team. >
