Hmmm, electoral mutiny. I like the sound of that. From: Mathew Howard Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 11:41 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT News from Utah
On the other hand, I think only about half of the states actually bind their electors to vote for the candidate that won that state. So in theory, we just need to get a few rogue electors to vote for Chuck, and it'll all work out fine... On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: Scratch that. Only Maine (4 votes), and Nebraska (5 votes) award electoral votes by proportion. That means that someone would have to get more than half of 25% or 20% respectively (or however those states divide the proportions). bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 10/20/2016 10:24 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Although... Aren't there a handful of states that give electoral votes by proportion of the popular vote? That could theoretically add a few votes to Johnson and/or Stein. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 10/20/2016 10:22 AM, Bill Prince wrote: Good point. While McMullin might be able to win Utah (and get those 6 votes), the likelihood of Johnson or Stein getting even one electoral vote seem pretty remote. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 10/20/2016 10:08 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: I don't think so. As far as I know, McMullin is the only one other than Clinton and Trump with any real chance at getting any electoral votes - Johnson and Stein will likely both get a much higher percentage of the popular vote than McMullin, but I don't think either of them is anywhere close to winning a state in the polls. But Like Chuck said, it's really all academic. The possibility of Clinton and Trump both losing a majority by less than six electoral votes is pretty remote. On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 11:48 AM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote: That would be a really slight chance. Among the candidates running, I would rank their respective (probable) electoral votes at (1) Clinton, (2) Trump, (3) Johnson, (4) Stein, (5) McMullin. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 10/20/2016 9:05 AM, Mathew Howard wrote: If I understand the system right, if there's no majority, congress has to pick from the candidates with the top three most electoral votes (and there would only be three in that scenario) ... my guess is that, in that case (depending on what the new congress looks like), there would be a pretty good chance of ending up with Hillary anyway, but there would be a slight chance they'd all compromise on McMullin. On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Adam Moffett <[email protected]> wrote: We have a republican majority in Congress, but the republican party politicians don't like Trump. I'm sure they would pick somebody less crazy than Trump. ------ Original Message ------ From: "Bill Prince" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: 10/20/2016 11:54:59 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT News from Utah If anyone thinks our Congress is capable of making a non-crazy altrnative, I have a bridge I want to sell you. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 10/20/2016 8:51 AM, Adam Moffett wrote: Nobody having a majority is my favorite scenario, and for awhile I thought it would happen. Unfortunately I think Clinton will win by a landslide because people are stuck in this mentality where we have to pick a winning horse rather than voting for what we really want. It can still work out if Trump can rally a little bit and get back to being tied with Clinton. Then we can have a split, no majority for anyone, and Congress can pick a non-awful president. ------ Original Message ------ From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Sent: 10/20/2016 11:41:56 AM Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT News from Utah I think he has more presidential qualifications than Trump does. And if my a miracle we can prevent 270 for Hillary then the House of Representatives get to pick the president. And I doubt they will pick Trump. So in that respect, Utah is saving the nation... From: Travis Johnson Sent: Thursday, October 20, 2016 9:29 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT News from Utah Utah doesn't have enough bad marks already?? Now they will vote for a nobody, and truly look like they are crazy. LOL Travis On 10/20/2016 9:12 AM, [email protected] wrote: Evan McMullin, the Provo-born independent, has seized his first lead in Utah’s fluid presidential race. The Emerson College poll, released Wednesday, found McMullin with 31 percent, followed by Republican Donald Trump at 27 percent and Democrat Hillary Clinton at 24 percent.
