That made more sense to me than my CCNA instructor.

Jaime Solorza
On Nov 10, 2015 10:31 AM, "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> wrote:

> We should probably get rid of the term “subnet” and just tell people the
> netmask tells you how many of the 32 bits in the (IPv4) address specify the
> network, with the remaining bits specifying the host.  The idea of
> network/subnet/host goes back to pre-CIDR days.
>
> It doesn’t take long before you instinctively know to subtract from 256.
> So for a 255.255.255.248 netmask, you subtract 248 from 256 and get 8 which
> is the number of host addresses.  Or if you are dealing with slash
> notation, /29 means the first 29 of the 32 bits specify the network, so the
> remaining 32-29=3 bits specify the host.  And 2^3=8 is the number of
> possible host addresses in that network.
>
> The concept of network and broadcast address is a little trickier, because
> it depends on how the IP block will be used.  If it’s not an actual LAN
> (like maybe being assigned as individual /32 routes via PPPoE), they are
> usable, but it may confuse people.
>
>
> *From:* Justin Wilson - MTIN <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, November 10, 2015 11:15 AM
> *To:* [email protected]
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Subnetting and TCP/IP Intro
>
> There are some good CCNA videos on Youtube about subnetting.  Subnetting
> is like the old multiplication tables in school.  If you memorize what
> subnet mask corresponds to, say a /29, then you are ahead of the game.
> Getting down into the binary aspect of it is helpful in about .01% of all
> troubleshooting on a non-programmer level.  If we go back to our math
> analogy the only place most folks don’t use calculators is on tests.  Same
> with subletting.  There are subnet calculators out there for you to use.
> As long as you understand the fundamentals and know whats going on you
> don’t have to do all the work manually.
>
> The short answer is, even for the mikrotik tests, tell your employee to
> google “CCNA subletting” on youtube.  Lots of good videos in the first 10
> choices.  After that have them learn the 7 layer OSI model.
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_OPR2yh2co
>
>
>
>
> Justin Wilson
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>
> On Nov 10, 2015, at 11:17 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
> Pretty sure this is the site that Butch himself recommended ages ago:
> http://www.tcpipguide.com/
>
>
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> On Tue, Nov 10, 2015 at 11:14 AM, Matt <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Have an employee we plan on sending to Mikrotik MTCNA training in next
>> month or two.  Prerequisites state: "The student must have a good
>> understanding of TCP/IP and subnetting".
>>
>> Are there some good online youtube or other free sources for this that
>> anyone here recommends?
>>
>
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