Vortex shredding...What a terrifying phrase.  All this winter the U.S. NE 
quadrant has been polar vortex shredded!

Patrick Leary
M 727.501.3735
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From: Af [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 12:44 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question

Monopoles are subject to the vortex shedding problem causing them to oscillate. 
 If the axis of the sway causes the dish to aim high and then low it would do 
exactly what Jaime is guessing it is doing.

I would suggest mount the antennas lower if possible and/or use smaller dishes. 
 There is plenty of signal.
2’ or 18” would still work just fine at that range.



From: Bill Prince<mailto:[email protected]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 10:35 AM
To: [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Smart guys on lost question

I would think the other way.  Many guyed towers are not 100% stable in 
rotation, and running a PTP link from one would likely require torque arrestors.



bp

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On 3/4/2015 8:51 AM, Jaime Solorza wrote:
The FCC document they gave me says 21 dBm tx power and that what is set on 
radios according to guy who hired me to help verify path.   One 3 ft dish is on 
huge guyed tower and another on a monopole with several other drums and a 
sectors.    They experience signal drops during high winds.  my guess just from 
little data giving to me is that monopole is oscillating enough to affect path 
with signal drops.    It is a very windy area and according to their IT guy 
this is when they see some issues.  Link doesn't drop completely but alarms in 
windy season allot.


Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390

On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 9:43 AM, Josh Luthman 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Always listen to the manufacturer.  I don't anyone has ever come up with a case 
where their figure was noticeably off.  Certainly never not on the side of 
caution.

Are you using their full tx power or the tx power of the highest modulation?


Josh Luthman
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On Wed, Mar 4, 2015 at 11:31 AM, Jaime Solorza 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hello Smart Dudes on the list:
Running a 3.348 mile path for 18 Ghz Dragonwave link to compare what someone 
else came up with.    I am wondering if they used just unfaded free space loss 
calculation and coming up with a figure 10dB better than mine,   I am using 
unfaded urban area free space loss for mime.  I use just free space loss we are 
within 3db of each other.  I added 1 db of cable loss since I do not know if 
waveguide was used or many other details.  I will get all that information on 
site.
I have always engineered paths on conservative side since the start.

What are your thoughts  Hobson?

Thx


Jaime Solorza
Wireless Systems Architect
915-861-1390<tel:915-861-1390>







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