You should read the stuff out of Davos. Part of what you say is true,
the European nations are/were followers, but tRump has that all changing
as fast as they can. The leader of Canada said what was on all the
leadership of the free world is now thinking and that is basically
forgetting about alignment with the US. We used to have the most of the
world following our lead. That is now OVER. Guess what comes next. The
other countries are going to start building their own stuff for all that
we sold them as fast as they can figure it out. Sweden, Germany,
England, etc.. are going to be building/selling advanced systems like
crazy and where they get the raw materials? Not the US... Right now
other leadership is looking at China as a much more reliable trading
partner than the US.
On 1/23/26 12:23 PM, David Hannum via AF wrote:
I disagree. I don't think our allies distrust us. They don't LIKE
lots of what Trump does, I think they see strength. I think they see
"America First" and they respect that because they understand that as
the USA goes, they go. They need a stron, unapologetic US who will
stick their finger in the face of Russia and China. They need us to
be like that because they can't/won't be like that for themselves.
The European nations are all followers - not leaders. Biden & Obama
did not lead. Obama was apologetic of the success of the US. My
biggest fear is what comes AFTER Trump? Every country in the world
can't be equal. Nothing gets done. And China and Russia aren't
going to play that game.
Dave
On Fri, Jan 23, 2026 at 3:13 PM Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
It's still totally unnecessary, and does nothing but create
confusion and distrust. If you want our allies to distrust us,
then do shit like this.
May actually be too late. They already distrust us, and China and
Russia are loving it. Just look at what Carney said.
Stick an arrow pointing out of his ass, and that's probably where
we should be going.
bp
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On 1/22/2026 9:07 AM, David Hannum via AF wrote:
Even if it is what existed before, the world is on notice that we
are planning to deploy defense systems there. So yea, it's still
a win and Trump can take a victory lap (like he needs a reason .
. . )
Dave
On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 11:47 AM Bill Prince
<[email protected]> wrote:
Even though it was Wednesday, I will call it a TACO day
(follow the stock market).
There are zero details of what the "deal" is or isn't, and
I'm betting it's essentially what existed before.
Prove me wrong.
bp
<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
On 1/22/2026 7:43 AM, Rory Conaway wrote:
Looks like Trump got the deal he wanted. Everyone is happy :).
Rory
On Thu, Jan 22, 2026 at 7:11 AM MVTVWISPA
<[email protected]> wrote:
David-
I too read that exact information from Facebook posts
word for word.
*From:*AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *David
Hannum via AF
*Sent:* Wednesday, January 21, 2026 3:33 PM
*To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
*Cc:* David Hannum <[email protected]>
*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT - Greenland
So many think Trump is a bully on Greenland . . . If you
think he's so terrible, you absolutely don’t know history.
1) 1867 – Andrew Johnson: explored buying Greenland &
Iceland (right after Alaska).
2) WWII – FDR: U.S. took over Greenland’s defense while
Denmark was occupied.
3) 1946 – Truman: offered $100M in gold to buy it.
4) Cold War – Eisenhower → Kennedy: nonstop
negotiations for bases, radar, missiles.
5) Post–Cold War – Clinton/Bush/Obama: expanded Arctic
security & missile defense.
6) 2019 – Trump: said publicly what presidents
discussed privately for 150+ years.
The U.S. didn’t “suddenly” want Greenland.
It’s been defending it, negotiating it, and embedding
there since the 1800s.
Greenland = Arctic power, shipping lanes, missiles,
minerals.
Trump didn’t invent it. His crime is he said the quiet
part out loud.
=======================
NATO Secretary General Mark Rutte said on Jan. 21 at the
World Economic Forum in Davos, Switzerland, that Trump
is spot on about the importance of Greenland to
security. He said, "When it comes to the Arctic, I
think President Trump is right. Other leaders in NATO
are right. We need to defend the Arctic. There are eight
countries bordering on the Arctic. Seven are members of
NATO. That’s Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Iceland,
Canada, and the U.S.,” Rutte said.
"And there’s only one country bordering on the Arctic
outside NATO, and that’s Russia. And I would argue there
is a ninth country, which is China, which is
increasingly active in the Arctic region. So, President
Trump and other leaders are right, we have to do more
there; we have to protect the Arctic."
Dave Hannum
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