Not at all I need help - help.emailsrvr.com my mails not getting there - more than 3 seconds support - submit a ticket to rackspace im not receiving email - more than 3 seconds support - submit a ticket spam issue - our host suspended you, change your password, take your pc and phones to get checked out, 2 more times you dont have email change password - powercode reset
I deal with mail less than one hour out of the whole year. I dont maintain any firewall, i dont process any update, i dont have to migrate hardware - ever On Sun, Jan 18, 2026 at 10:55 AM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wrote: > If you're supporting the customer, whether you host the email or it's > hosted elsewhere, it's largely the same. > > A lot of people don't implement systems with effective SPAM filtering > (inbound or outbound) or proper rate limiting to reduce the risk of issues > with the big guys. > > You'd think the big guys whitelist each other, but spend enough time on > the mailops mailing list, and there's a wealth of issues. My Office 365 > email gets blocked by someone often enough and long enough that it's > annoying. > > > Also, you're going to be supporting the customer's email issues, whether > you offer email or not (because GMail doesn't have support), so you might > as well own the situation. > > > > > -- > Mike Hammett > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ken Hohhof" <[email protected]> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2026 10:43:25 AM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hosted emails > > I don't pretend to speak for Steve, but I assume spam is one issue, people > who want to call and have you curate their whitelist and blacklist and > release messages from their quarantine. Or expect you to fix a recipient's > mail server blocking their messages as spam. > > And those who don't understand POP vs IMAP vs webmail or getting messages > on multiple devices, or you have to explain why they can't send email to > johnsmith@gmail they have to put in the .com. > > Someone already mentioned that big providers tend to whitelist each other > but your server is more likely to be blocked for spam. And this will > happen when one of your not-so-tech-savvy customers gets their credentials > hacked (again) and since they use the same password everywhere (of course) > their credentials start getting used on your email system to send spam > using SMTP-AUTH. > > The key to offering email service (like if you're Gmail) is not to have a > phone number listed anywhere for people to call for support. But if you're > an ISP that also offers email, they know where you live. And you are > self-selecting for high maintenance users, the ones who don't need hand > holding are on Gmail. > > The other category would be businesses with their own domains, that is a > whole other set of pros and cons, but probably more worth pursuing. > > -----Original Message----- > From: AF <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Mike Hammett > Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2026 9:44 AM > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hosted emails > > "Id sooner lick a badgers left ballsac than ever host email again." > > Why? > > > > > -- > Mike Hammett > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]> > To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, January 17, 2026 10:51:49 PM > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Hosted emails > > > > > Since the great Exchange, rack space hasn't been forthright with anything. > I'm actually looking forward to the call with Zoho and they were > originally just a due diligence contact. > > > Id sooner lick a badgers left ballsac than ever host email again. > > > > On Sat, Jan 17, 2026, 7:50 PM Dev < [email protected] > wrote: > > > We did our own Postfix servers for years and finally moved it third party, > since all it does is attract hate when an email doesn’t get delivered for > any number of reasons that all become your fault. Large providers pretty > much can’t block Rackspace, and it “just works” so we don’t have to sweat > delivery issues. > > Has Rackspace said why they suddenly feel the need to ream everyone? > > I’ll look into Zoho as well. > > > On 17 Jan 2026, at 10:18 AM, Mike Hammett < [email protected] > wrote: > > > > We still use our own server on our own network. They aren't hard. > Carbonio is the mail server, going through (inbound and outbound) Proxmox > Mail Gateway. It's a really simple and reliable setup. > > > > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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