I think a lot of people that use ribbon end up breaking it out and splicing
one at a time anyway for that exact reason.  When we got our splicer, the
Sumitomo guy also demoed a ribbon machine, and after like a dozen tries
even with him doing half of them, we couldn't get a good burn on all 12.

On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 11:38 AM <[email protected]> wrote:

> I hate ribbon.  Seems every time I try to splice it one of the ribbons
> does not fuse right.  I lose patience.  Others eventually get it to work or
> they note the bad burn on the records.  It does not seem to be a time saver
> to me.
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> *From:* AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Josh Luthman
> *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2025 10:28 AM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] 2" conduit vs. 1 1/4"?
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>
> Both ways.
>
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>
> If you spent the money on ribbon, you can just pinch it from the sides and
> the glue breaks them apart.  Gotta be careful and all that, never know when
> not to push it.
>
>
>
> You can also buy the cheaper loose tube stuff and ribbon it yourself.  My
> techs are good enough to just do it by hand, but I use a bottle of glue and
> some cheap plastic clips.
>
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>
> Assuming it's modern stuff.  If this free 48ct is from pre-2010 it could
> be the same or totally different.
>
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>
> On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 12:19 PM Dev <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Can you peel apart the 12 count into individual strands and splice them,
> or do you have to have a ribbon splicer?
>
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>
> On Sep 22, 2025, at 9:12 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> I'm pretty confident the guys in the trench will disagree it's no
> additional cost difference.
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> On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 11:36 AM Dev <[email protected]> wrote:
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> We’re drilling it ourselves, so no cost differential there, and the city
> didn’t know what to do with a few thousand feet of 48 count ribbon, and
> some 12 and 4 count, so they donated it, so that part is free, except
> labor, which or course isn’t.
>
>
>
> On Sep 22, 2025, at 6:33 AM, Josh Luthman <[email protected]>
> wrote:
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> If the drill cost is the exact same, go for it.  But I doubt a driller is
> going to look at 2" for the same price as a 1.25".
>
>
>
> Why you're doing 48 ribbon is beyond me.  I didn't even know they made it
> in that low of a count.  We have 288 LT and ribbon in 1.25".  I sincerely
> regret every bit of ribbon cable - it's a waste of money, eats a ton more
> labor, and provides little to no value.
>
>
>
> If you're paying an extra 50c for 2" labor and saving 37c for
> pipe...that's just dumb...
>
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 19, 2025 at 7:08 PM Chuck <[email protected]> wrote:
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> Never.  But i have had gophers eat .75 and microduct before.  Even 1.25
> once.  So i guess 2” would more gopher resistant.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Sep 19, 2025, at 1:33 PM, Dev <[email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > We’re drilling a development, and we have some spare 2” sitting
> around, but wondering whether for two rows of 50 homes we could really get
> away with ordering a roll of 1 1/4” to do that rest? We’re likely doing
> GPON and have some 48 count ribbon fiber for the project, and some 4 and 12
> count drops. Will we ever wish we used 2” for everything?
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