I have a Slack channel literally labeled "political", but it is boring because all the members are in the same mind space.

bp
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On 9/22/2025 10:56 AM, [email protected] wrote:

I love the fact that old friends here can trash talk each other and most people don’t get hot about it.  I do it for sport and amusement.  I presume Bill and Ken do too.  Steve can always be counted on to throw a squib into the mix.    Used to be we had declared no politics during lent and lent was extended.  Then in the latter years we just put the OT on the subject line inviting folks to scroll on by.

*From:*AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
*Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2025 11:52 AM
*To:* [email protected]
*Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"

Had to. It goes with the brand.

bp
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On 9/22/2025 10:48 AM, [email protected] wrote:

    Ain’tcha glad Trump switched from Dem to Rep?

    *From:*AF <[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof
    *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2025 11:41 AM
    *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
    <mailto:[email protected]>
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"

    Suing DJT is like spraying water on a fish.  Cost of doing
    business.  If a week goes by and nobody has sued him, that would
    be news. Going back to the 1970’s.  He’s known as Don the Con, we
    can’t call him the Teflon Don because that title belongs to John
    Gotti.

    
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Personal_and_business_legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump

    *From:*AF <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince
    *Sent:* Monday, September 22, 2025 12:32 PM
    *To:* [email protected]
    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and "jawboning"

    The fine was in the neighborhood of $700 to $800 million (I forget
    the actual amount). I think it was inflated because of his
    behavior, but I did not follow it that closely. The fine was
    invalidated, but I think it should have been reduced to something
    more appropriate. The felon made numerous threats to the judge in
    the case, and I don't think it played in his favor.

    bp

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    On 9/22/2025 10:11 AM, Jan-GAMs wrote:

        Any other person this would have been a class "C" felony and
        jail for years and years.  Has he even paid his fine yet?  Who
        did he bribe?  Maybe it was an "offer they couldn't refuse"?

        On 9/22/25 09:55, Steve Jones wrote:

            "fraud" lol, where a never used rule was used? for
            "victims" that said they werent victims?

            100m is peanuts in those transactions.

            that like a 256mb thumbdrive in a datacenter

            On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 11:51 AM Bill Prince
            <[email protected]> wrote:

                His fraud was in the neighborhood of well over 100
                million dollars. If that's no big deal to you, then
                you operate in a different financial mind space than
                99% of the US.

                To me that is not in the same league as jay walking.

                bp

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                On 9/22/2025 8:09 AM, [email protected] wrote:

                    OK, on the felony thing:  It was 34 acts of
                    posting a legal expense to a general ledger
                    account that the extremely biased and politically
                    motivated prosecutor, judge and jury found to be
                    “improper”, as perhaps the GL account number
                    offended their feng shui. The IRS and the NY
                    department of revenue were not offended.  Meh they
                    said.  This was seriously thin soup.  But they got
                    it rammed through.  All individually were
                    misdemeanors.  Equivalent to jay walking or
                    spitting your gum on the street.

                    However NY has a rule that if you have enough
                    misdemeanors in one pile you can convert them to a
                    felony.

                    So anyone saying: ” yeah that felon” gets a
                    snicker and smirk from me.  Like, is that the best
                    you can do?

                    *From:*AF <[email protected]>
                    <mailto:[email protected]> *On Behalf Of
                    *Jan-GAMs
                    *Sent:* Sunday, September 21, 2025 11:34 PM
                    *To:* [email protected]
                    *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and Kimmel and
                    "jawboning"

                    34 count felon by several juries makes one want to
                    give him a hug?  I have daughters and
                    grand-daughters and I know he's been on that
                    island with Jeffrey and on the Lolita express more
                    than once by his own words. That's another factoid
                    that makes him disgusting to me.  Do you need more
                    than juries to know you have to agree for a serial
                    rapist to be put in jail?  How about the prisons
                    in Utah?  You want them to release all the rapists
                    because you personally don't know  and don't want
                    to vilify/judge them?  I didn't personally meet
                    Hitler nor Stalin, either.  I think that's pretty
                    bad to give criminals that big of a break.  Rape,
                    child rape, bank fraud, tax fraud, the list gets
                    too extensive... because now it's escalated up to
                    murder, multiple.  The only explanation is
                    organized crime made a deal they (the GOP)
                    couldn't refuse!

                    On 9/21/25 12:09, Jan-GAMs wrote:

                        I am absolutely positive 90% of my ancestors
                        fought in the revolution against King George
                        and those same ancestors are rolling in their
                        graves about how another usurper criminal
                        felon King Don is in the whitehouse. 
                        Absolutely positive about it.  Not at all
                        mixed about it.  I didn't like him at all 30
                        years ago, found his TV shows offensive, found
                        everything about him to be rude, crud and
                        lewd, repulsive in every way.  Only thing I
                        can figure is the state of Nevada said he
                        couldn't own a casino in their state because
                        he was mafia and I agree with their opinion. 
                        He must have made an offer to the GOP and
                        Supreme court they couldn't refuse (godfather)
                        and they took the offer.

                        On 9/21/25 11:22, Bill Prince wrote:

                            Not mixed at all for me. I find the guy
                            (not THAT guy) repulsive in almost every way.

                            He is visibly and verbally deteriorating.
                            No one will have to kill him; he will
                            expire all by himself (just like most of
                            us I guess), but I openly wonder if he
                            will survive to November 2028.

                            bp

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                            On 9/20/2025 2:24 PM, [email protected] wrote:

                                Trump is such a mixed bag for me.  I
                                do like many of the policies.  I don’t
                                find much to like about the man.

                                *From:*AF <[email protected]>
                                <mailto:[email protected]> *On
                                Behalf Of *Robert
                                *Sent:* Saturday, September 20, 2025
                                2:47 PM
                                *To:* [email protected]
                                *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT? Carr and
                                Kimmel and "jawboning"

                                I am guessing that wouldn't make Trump
                                a hero to you....

                                On 9/20/25 11:59 AM, [email protected]
                                wrote:

                                    I think it is pretty bad to vilify
                                    and judge someone that you don't know

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