Whoop-de-doo.
What about the few thousand yahoos that attacked the capital on January
6 2021? All I saw in that crowd was "proud boys" and Confederate flags.
That was a proud day.
bp
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On 9/19/2025 4:04 PM, Chuck wrote:
They had antifa associated symbols and emblems on kerchiefs and clothing.
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On Sep 19, 2025, at 1:31 PM, Bill Prince <[email protected]> wrote:
They said they were antifa.
Did they carry ID?
Was it a false flag operation?
Did you hire them?
Were their parents undocumented?
bp
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On 9/18/2025 4:25 PM, Chuck wrote:
They poured accelerant on the front of the building and set it on
fire. It was extinguished right away. They called themselves
antifa. What is incorrect here?
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On Sep 18, 2025, at 3:46 PM, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
WELL CHUCK.... Capitals because someone I respect seems to be
spreading poor information without doing much research.... DETAILS
MATTER... specially if you are getting pretty close to yelling fire
in a theater... Is there a difference between a union hall and a
police station, YES, are they both building that the police use,
YES. Is burning one worse than the other Yes and no. Did the
building actually burn NO. Your response was so far below what I
would expect from you, I have to either figure you are seriously
stirring the pot for no good, or you just don't care anymore what
people think of you.
Chatgpt...
I couldn’t find credible evidence that /Antifa/ definitively
*burned a Portland police station*. What I did find is more nuanced
— there /were/ fire-and-vandalism incidents in Portland during
protests, sometimes targeting police or police union buildings, but
no clear record of Antifa burning a full police station.
Here’s a summary of what I found:
------------------------------------------------------------------------
What /does/ appear to be true
*
During the George Floyd protests in Portland (2020-2021),
protesters broke into the Portland Police Association (PPA)
building on North Lombard Street and set fire inside it. Some
windows were smashed, security cameras damaged, and a dumpster
was set ablaze among other acts. (Wikipedia
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Portland%2C_Oregon?utm_source=chatgpt.com>)
*
These events are documented in multiple sources, including
reports that the PPA (a police union building) was vandalized
and partially burned. (Wikipedia
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Floyd_protests_in_Portland%2C_Oregon?utm_source=chatgpt.com>)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
What I /didn’t/ find confirmed
*
I did *not* find credible, well-documented evidence that a
/full police precinct / station house/ was burned down or
destroyed by Antifa (or protesters self-identifying as such).
*
Some reports, particularly from less reliable outlets or
opinion/rumor sources, make claims like “BLM or Antifa
protesters burned a police station,” but these are not
substantiated in reputable news or official records. For
example, a claim in the /New York Post/ says protesters set a
police station on fire. However, that article lacks
verification from local fire or police department sources. (New
York Post
<https://nypost.com/2020/08/24/blm-protesters-set-portland-police-station-on-fire/?utm_source=chatgpt.com>)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
If you want, I can try tracking down any fire department or
official records to see exactly what was burned and when — that
might clarify whether “station house” means union building vs
precinct vs administrative offices, etc. Do you want me to dig into
that?
On 9/18/25 3:20 PM, Chuck wrote:
All the maskef antifas burning police stations proclamed they were
antifa.
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On Sep 18, 2025, at 2:59 PM, Robert <[email protected]> wrote:
I guess I don't see anyone from Antifa telling comics that they
have to get off the air. Actually I have not heard ONE single
person declare themselves as antifa, but plenty of MAGA saying
that someone was antifa because they didn't like the words coming
out of their mouths. And then actually striking out against
that person. Physically or politically...
On 9/18/25 1:29 PM, Cameron Crum wrote:
When Antifa says fascism, they just mean anything not on the
extreme left. If they disagree with you, you are a fascist.
There is no relevance to actual fascism like you think about
from WW2, and in fact most of their "actions" are far closer to
that fascism than anything the "right" is doing.
On Thu, Sep 18, 2025 at 11:56 AM Bill Prince
<[email protected]> wrote:
What a lot of people fail to understand is that there is no
"antifa" organization. It's more of a philosophy (IMO).
Sure, a lot of marginalized people probably ascribe to the
notion of antifa.
However, I would say that the majority of Americans are
against the idea of fascism.
Tell me you're in favor of fascism.
bp
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On 9/18/2025 9:46 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
Is your sphere of influence real life people you know, or
online stuff? I honestly have never had a single person IRL
mention Antifa, much less belong to such an organization.
And Utah seems an unlikely place to have Antifa cells.
But Howard from Big Bang Theory reminds us you don’t need
to experience something to know you want it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bXXcqDHEC0o
Maybe you mean nihilism and not literally Antifa. There
seems to be a bumper crop of disaffected nihilists these
days. Not sure that fits neatly into a left/right
political narrative. More like there will always be people
who think the world has screwed them over and want to burn
the whole thing down.
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*To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <[email protected]>
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*Subject:* [AFMUG] OT Politics (slow day, need my trolling
fix, dopamine you know)
Odd that the majority of the people in my sphere of
influence that are espousing the goodness of antifa are all
uniformly: uneducated, pot smoking, un churched, and in
many cases with minor criminal records, but all of them are
as poor as dirt it seems. Poverty is what drove the
Russian revolution. Perhaps that is the driver here.
I just cannot get behind the ideology. This is what
Wikipedia says:
*Ideology
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_ideologies>***
Anti-fascism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-fascism>
Anti-authoritarianism
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-authoritarianism>
Anti-capitalism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-capitalism>
Anti-statism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-statism>
Anti-Trumpism
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protests_against_Donald_Trump>
Anarchism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anarchism>
Socialism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism>
Communism <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism>
*Political position
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_spectrum>***
Left-wing <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics>
*Major actions***
Direct action <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_action>
Community organizing
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_organizing>
Mutual aid <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutual_aid>
Harassment <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harassment>
Digital activism
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_activism>
Doxing <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxing>
Picketing <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picketing>
Political violence
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_violence>
Protest marching <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Protest_march>
*Status***
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