Years ago I had someone send me a demo unit of a ONT/router battery backup that just used 8 D-Cell Alkaline batteries. Up to the customer to replace them when they go bad or are depleted by an outage. Didn't seem like a terrible idea if you "had to offer a backup power solution"
On Fri, May 2, 2025 at 9:10=E2=80=AFAM Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksll= c.com> wrote: > > I'm testing the ESPI box. Very small 12v lithium unit. 12v output with = DC barrels, and POE capability (24v or 48v passive only i think) > > On Fri, May 2, 2025 at 8:23=E2=80=AFAM Mike Hammett <[email protected]> wr= ote: >> >> You do have to offer it (I think that requirement is going away), but no= on=3D >> e has to take you up on the offer, and the offer doesn't have to be reas= ona=3D >> ble. >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Mike Hammett >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Steve Jones" <[email protected]> >> To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Friday, May 2, 2025 12:10:38 AM >> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] UPS for Internet equipment >> >> >> >> I thought there was some rule that you have to offer UPS if you sell VOI= P, =3D >> youd think the market would be saturated with small power long runners i= n t=3D >> his space=3D20 >> >> >> On Thu, May 1, 2025 at 7:35 PM Ken Hohhof < [email protected] > wrote:=3D= 20 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Most people have phones, tablets and laptops that are battery powered, a= s w=3D >> ell as security cameras like Ring and Blink. But unless they have a whol= e h=3D >> ome generator, their Internet stops working if their Internet equipment = (ro=3D >> uter, modem, ONT, radio, gateway, etc.) doesn=3DE2=3D80=3D99t have power= .=3D20 >> >> >> >> Have any of you found a UPS that fits this use case?=3D20 >> >> >> >> Everybody wants to sell you an 800 VA battery backup with 30 minutes of = run=3D >> time. It=3DE2=3D80=3D99s the old paradigm of powering your desktop compu= ter long =3D >> enough to save your work and shut it down. What we need is something tha= t d=3D >> elivers 1/10 that much power for 10 times that long.=3D20 >> >> >> >> Yes, I realize a big part of the problem is the inefficiency of DC/AC co= nve=3D >> rsion especially at low power levels. And there have occasionally been D= C b=3D >> attery backups for network equipment, usually for a specific model of CP= E. =3D >> But we are often faced with a radio that wants 24-30 or 48-56 VDC, and a= Wi=3D >> Fi router that wants 5 or 12 VDC.=3D20 >> >> >> >> If this was for our own use, I could build something with some DIN rail = ele=3D >> ctronics and a battery, but it wouldn=3DE2=3D80=3D99t be UL approved or = appropria=3D >> te for a customer to use in their home.=3D20 >> >> >> >> People these days get alerted on their phone because their doorbell came= ra =3D >> is offline, and they call their ISP rather than check for power outages.= If=3D >> they had a UPS for their Internet equipment, they would get an alert th= at =3D >> their POWER was off. Ideally it would run for 8 hours which seems to be = a t=3D >> ypical restoral time for power companies. But I guess even with a couple= ho=3D >> urs they would at least know why their security camera is offline. And i= f t=3D >> hey are home they continue doing stuff online for awhile and start plann= ing=3D >> where to go for public WiFi if the power outage lasts longer than their= ba=3D >> ttery runtime. --=3D20 >> AF mailing list=3D20 >> [email protected]=3D20 >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com=3D20 >> >> --=3D20 >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > > -- > AF mailing list > [email protected] > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list [email protected] http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
