Size matters when keeping components cool in our enclosures...many are in
direct sunlight...we use extreme weather devices plus heating and cooling
solutions.

On Tue, Jun 27, 2023, 12:10 PM Chuck McCown via AF <[email protected]> wrote:

> Fans convert pretty much 100% to heat energy.
>
> https://www.aps.org/publications/apsnews/201506/physicshistory.cfm
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>
> Yeah it's pretty much always an unmanned environment.  No women either.
>
> When you're cooling a house, the surface area facing the outside and the
> number of door & window penetrations is a big deal, but POP sites are
> usually in a space the size of a walk-in closet with one door.  So I'm
> pretty sure that the heat generated in the room is what I need to worry
> about, but I'm not sure how well a resistance heater translates to
> electronics.  I'm also fuzzy on power consumed by fans.  Kinetic energy and
> heat are really the same thing, right?  Right?
>
> Maybe when I'm rich, bored, and retired I'll put servers inside of a water
> jacket and measure their actual heat output.
>
> -Adam
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> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Heat estimate
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> Not directly related but when I researched cooling for a new datacenter the
> key was efficient airflow (or even hot isle/cold isle), and setting the
> thermost higher not lower.  Although that saves engery and $$$ you have a
> much shorter time to recover from a cooling failure as system temperature
> will raise rapidly with little margin.
>
> There's an interesting study where Intel ran tests for nearly a year with
> servers in an air cooler environment in New Mexico with outside
> temperatures
> approaching 100F.  I'll see if I can find it.
>
> From there, finding the right size cooling requirements is still a
> challenge (easy to over do it) but it helped.  Cooling for resistive heat
> is
> different than for human comfort so if it is an unmanned environment,
> there's that to consider as well.
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> At 02:50 PM 6/26/2023, you wrote:
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> >I've been assuming that whatever energy you put into an electronic
> >system is coming out as heat -there might be multiple conversions
> >before it becomes heat, but it must become heat eventually.
> >
> >A resistive heater is said to convert 1 Watt to
> >3.41 BTU/hr.  So that's the conversion I'm using.
> >
> >I'm largely ignoring other factors because I'm assuming the
> >overwhelming majority of heat in the room is the heat from my
> >equipment, and the goal is to pump that heat outside.
> >
> >
> >
> >I don't think I've undersized an air conditioner
> >yet using that methodology, but is it overkill?
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