i personally think it's a good idea. hardware is cheap, bandwidth is cheap. downtime is not.
On Tue, Sep 15, 2020 at 9:55 AM Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech < [email protected]> wrote: > Have you ever considered addressing redundancy by using a mirror (local, > offsite or in the cloud)? It provides both disk and location redundancy and > the cost is low (one 4D Server license and a modestly provisioned machine). > And backups can be moved off the primary 4D Server, increasing > availability. > > Tom Benedict > > > On Sep 15, 2020, at 06:11, Mike Kerner via 4D_Tech <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > Chip asked "why mechanical" > > I'm an ssd fanatic, and have insisted on every new machine having an SSD > > for years, so I was leery about doing this. It seems from the literature > > that mechanical drives actually have a higher expected lifespan than > > SSD's. The other reason is because if a mechanical drive fails, you > have a > > higher probability of recovery than you do with an SSD, because you can > > clean-room the drive. As someone who got frequent flyer miles from > > driveSavers, I appreciate that I never sent them a drive that they didn't > > recover. > > I'm still leery of this setup, though. I don't like it, and I'm > concerned > > that maybe the literature is incorrect. How can mechanical drives > > possibly be more reliable than SSD's? > > As a resul of this thread, we just added another drive to this new 4D > > setup, so for now: > > OS, applications (C:) (SSD) > > Structure, Data (D:) (Mechanical) > > backups and logs (F:) > > Further, we have an external backup server. > > I'm a gigantic proponent of cloud backups, as well, via whatever service. > > > > > > On Sat, Sep 12, 2020 at 11:46 PM Tom Benedict via 4D_Tech < > > [email protected]> wrote: > > > >> I understand that medical data wouldn’t be stored in the public cloud, > but > >> what about private cloud? Private cloud has been used to store medical > data > >> for some years now. But not in Canada yet? Seems like there must be a > way > >> for a cloud provider to have geographic control of where the data might > be > >> physically stored. > >> > >> Tom > >> > >>> On Sep 12, 2020, at 19:13, Robert McKeever via 4D_Tech < > >> [email protected]> wrote: > >>> > >>> And, by law, you can not store any Canadian Medical data on servers > >> outside the country. Makes the cloud mostly useless. > >>> > >>>> On Sep 12, 2020, at 3:41 PM, nug via 4D_Tech <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Personally cloud = ? Who has access to your data? > >>>> Who is scanning/deep inspecting, even as innocuous as spotlight > >> examining your data? > >>>> > >>>> Yes I know cloud is all the rage - but I guess it depends on who you > >> trust with your data, and how sensitive your data is. > >>>> > >>>> A “personal” or “corporate" cloud would be another matter because it > is > >> at least run/operated buy the company who’s data It is (or you > personally) > >> in which case the data is “safe”. “Safe” as in those who have access are > >> supposed to have access — of course that doesn’t mitigate against inside > >> misuse of computing resources. :) > >>>> > >>>> Just because your paranoid - that doesn’t mean “they” are not REALLY > >> after you! :) > >>>> > >>>> Chip > >>>> > >>>>> On Sep 12, 2020, at 2:09 PM, Tom Benedict <[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >>>>> > >>>>> Your redundancy here is impressive but I don’t see anything about > >> cloud backup. > >>>> > >>>> ********************************************************************** > >>>> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > >>>> New Forum: https://discuss.4D.com > >>>> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > >>>> Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > >>>> Unsub: mailto:[email protected] > >>>> ********************************************************************** > >>> > >>> _________________________________________ > >>> Bob McKeever http://www.mswl.com < > >> http://www.mswl.com/> > >>> McKeever's Software Wizardry > >>> Port Coquitlam, B.C. > >>> [email protected] > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ********************************************************************** > >>> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > >>> New Forum: https://discuss.4D.com > >>> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > >>> Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > >>> Unsub: mailto:[email protected] > >>> ********************************************************************** > >> > >> ********************************************************************** > >> 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > >> New Forum: https://discuss.4D.com > >> Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > >> Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > >> Unsub: mailto:[email protected] > >> ********************************************************************** > > > > > > > > -- > > On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth > > On the second day, God created the oceans. > > On the third day, God put the animals on hold for a few hours, > > and did a little diving. > > And God said, "This is good." > > ********************************************************************** > > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > > New Forum: https://discuss.4D.com > > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > > Unsub: mailto:[email protected] > > ********************************************************************** > > ********************************************************************** > 4D Internet Users Group (4D iNUG) > New Forum: https://discuss.4D.com > Archive: http://lists.4d.com/archives.html > Options: https://lists.4d.com/mailman/options/4d_tech > Unsub: mailto:[email protected] > ********************************************************************** -- On the first day, God created the heavens and the Earth On the second day, God created the oceans. 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